The Big Gay Transporter

ummm. He ain't gay. He made out with a chick on the first one.

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oh right, because once you are with a woman it must mean you are not gay anymore.

Maybe he was cured after that kiss.

Honestly, I don't understand the covoluted and paranoid thinking behind homophobobia.

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I dont know why anyones sexual preferences are note worthy to begin with. I DONT CARE WHAT TURNS OTHER PEOPLE ON. PERIOD.

Note to gay people. I'm not a homophobe, but why must we heterosexuals have to have your gay lifestyles shoved down our throat in a "accept us or we will keep inundating you" gameplan? seriously, rainbow stickers? where is the sticker that screams?, "I'm hetero!" Why does there have to be a gay action star? was it bothering the gay community that bad there isn't one yet? Seriously between Bravo, TLC, and a few other channells it seems they have become all gay, all the time it seems like. For years gay people begged to be treated as equals. A stand point I was all for. And for the most part they are now. Homophobia has been eliminated to the point it is only present in the most ignorant..but still they keep the fight up. For what? you won. give it a break already..

and no if you make out with a female, and liked it, you are not gay, you are a Bi-sexual. To try and turn this guy gay, just for a twist would be like writing a gay character out of a story because it offended the masses,and isn't that what the gay community hates more than anything?

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John forgot to mention that "some of his best friends are gay..."

Can I say I am sick of hetero's claiming to be sympathetic (only because MTV tells them to be), yet they don't want to see guys holding hands walking down the street, or two guys in a car kissing at a red light -- of course these are the same guys that are all for watching two girls kiss. With their thumbs in the ass crack of their girlfriends' jeans they say "stop cramming it down our throats!" Then proceed to stick their tongue down her throat while in the food court at the mall... Keep YOUR SEXual preferences in the bedroom too please. (PS John, I have made out with a girl, plus a whole lot more, and we were engaged... but guess what I AM GAY totally gay, not bi, not confused, but gay).

In regards to the movie, if the actor doesn't play any homo-sex scenes, and his dialogue doesn't have any "obvious" references like "Hey that's my boyfriend!" then it seems to me that it will be a subtle outing. Not cramming anything down people's throat. Unlike Superman kissing Ms Lane, or all of the other superheroes going out of their way to prove they have genitals and let us know what they prefer to do with them (as in EVERY action hero movie ever made).

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Well John, I've made out with a woman more than once, enjoyed it thoroughly, and am 100% gay.

And why must there be a gay action hero? Well why not? Not to staight people, I'm not a heterophobe, but could you stop crammingh your lifestyle down my throat? Everywhere I turn it's men and women kissing, holding hands, having sex... it's creepy! If every action hero that we have seen up to this day has been straight, I'd say that's cramming heterosexuality down my throat.

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Hey, NOW that firehose scene makes sense.

Seriously, does anybody believe a single thing in the 3rd comment? The statement of "I'm cool with gay people, so I wish they'd shut up and go away"?

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Tom,

Way to go!!! Loved your post. Yes, heteros are CONSTANTLY shoving THEIR lifestyle down our throats. What really makes me sick is that when most people see a straight couple looking into each other's eyes with that stupid "in-love" look and kissing lightly on the lips... oh, it's so cute!!! But when they see two guys doing the same thing... OMG, it's so disgusting!!! Yet they do it all the time, but no, they are NOT shoving their lifestyle in our face. How convenient. And what about the constant updates on what they did with their wives/girlfriends/husbands/kids/grandkids over the weekend? Now if we dare tell them we went to the moviess with OUR boyfriends/husbands/wives/girlfriends, then we're flaunging our lifestyle. Hypocrites!

And for your info, John, gays are NOT equal in this country. When I can marry whomever I want AND get all the legal benefits YOU get, when I can adopt a child in ANY of the 50 states, when I don't have to worry about being fired from my job or denied housing only because I'm GAY, then and only THEN will I know that I have EQUAL rights. So don't try to tell us we're equal... do some research before you post so you don't look so stupid.

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um..for the record, I have no problem whatsoever with Gays kissing, being in love or doing any thing in public straight people do. I repeat none what so ever, I have been in gay clubs myself, and seen two guys making out and groping each other, it didn't bother me a bit.
But when hollywood feels the need to allude to a characters sexual preference when it has nothing to do with the story, or the movie in any way, hes exploiting gay people looking for "shock value" its the Director you should be angry at, not me.
by the way I do have gay friends, I'm married they know me, unlike you guys who presummed to judge me, based on an opinion, that you called me out for, and then satired yourself.

no one shoves hetero anything to gay people, there is no bumper sticker that indicates we're hetero, find me a gay person without a rainbow on their car.
There is no hetero specific TV channels there has never been a "celebrate the hetero lifestyle, comedy tour" on Bravo. There is no "straight eye for the queer guy". dont sit here and tell me that because the other networks dont feel the need to have atleast one gay character in every show, that the hetero lifestyle is shoved down your throats. I'm not ignorant.
There was a need for equal rights. and guess what, you have them. Congrats,I'm happy for you. now can we just move on with life?

did I mention I took my bi-sexual girlfriend to Disneys gay day?

next time ask me before you judge me.

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oh and by the way, the reason you cant get married is because the same people that wrote those type of laws, are still in power. I'm sorry, for your issues, really, for what it counts I vote Libertarian so rest assured the people I choose have no problem with gays getting married.
in that sence you dont have total equal rights, but is having a gay action hero, who was mysteriously straight in the first episode, really going to change that?

I dont know I figured getting everyone to vote would help more, than having a gay action hero representative.
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but seriously show me how the transporter being gay has something concrete to do with the story, and I'll go away quietly.

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Hi John,
You're completely off-base on this one. "Why don't straght people loudly proclaim their sexuality?" Because they don't HAVE TO. It's assumed everyday and every way that someone is straight. When's the last time you went out with a male friend and had someone ask you, "Would your husband like {fill in the blank), too?". No, that doesn't happen to you. However, when out with female friends, I constantly am assumed to be their husband/boyfriend.

If you really have gay friends, you should be ashamed of your lack of sympathy for the discrimination that they deal with on a regular basis. Women still face discrimination... so tell me, do you also have a problem with pro-feminist shows? How about those NOW bumperstickers? Equal Rights? Are you kidding? When is the last time you heard of someone being fired for being straight? Maybe YOU need to learn a little more before you spout-off.

Oh, and incidentally, you're wrong about something else. There WAS a show called "Straight Eye for the Queer Guy" (on Comedy Central, I believe). An inane little show that did what tv does best... play on stereotypes.

I'd hope if you really are on our side, you gain a little compassion.

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I have compassion, but when a group cries "Equal rights!" What they really mean is "Equal rights + a few extra benefits because we were oppressed from the beginning".
I attend a art school, there more gay people than I can count, I work side by side with gay people all the time and have never had a problem. Not only that but I have never heard a single one of them complain because they dont have the same opportunitys I have had as a straight man.

And as for you being asked about your husband, when are gay people going to realize its not our fault all of us dont have "gaydar"? If you see a French person standing on a street corner, but you dont know this person is from France and doesn't speak a lick of english, would you not still begin speaking to him in English, until it became apparent he didn't speak the language? He would then correct you, and you two would move on. It isn't right to make straight people have to use universal language at all times because it insults you to be inferred as "straight" accidently.

Look you want EQUAL Rights, try accepting EQUAL rights. The truth is, the meaning of the word implies, EVERYONE (gay straight,white,black,purple, green, blue..whoever) all has the same rights.
If I put a sticker on my car that says I'm straight, the gay society calls me garbage because they take that as an insult. How is that equal anything?
If I put a Alabama state flag in my car it's racist (not that I would being I'm not Albamian or redneck, but still.) Yet if a African-America puts a Malcolm X shirt on, thats history. That isn't very equal.

Point is, there is no reason your job should ever be aware of your sexual orientation as it has little or nothing to do with most jobs so therefore you should never go through the descrimination. And if someone makes a mistake, instead of blowing your top, try explaining, and most people will accomodate you.

"Oh, and incidentally, you're wrong about something else. There WAS a show called "Straight Eye for the Queer Guy" (on Comedy Central, I believe). An inane little show that did what tv does best... play on stereotypes."

Um, are you saying the show "Queer eye for the straight guy" isn't using stereotypes? Is it not implying Gay people have a better sence of style than straight people? Touche'
Also how in the world can you try and use a comedy central spoof on a show, as evidence of TV stereotyping? give me a break, SNL has stereotyped gays for as long as they have exsisted, and its never been an issue, because they stereotype straights, whites, Blacks, they are an EQUAL opportunity offender... I have compassion when a true injustice has ben commited, but I dont see stereotyping in the name of humor as injustice. Nor do I think someone mistakenly not automatically knowing you are gay is an insult either. You're just being too damn sensitive to this, and you seriously need to stop trying to keep this fight, picked, because for the most part things have gotten much better for Gays, even though you cant tell by listening to them.

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Boy, I see you really haven't a clue. If you are so lacking in intelligence as to believe that we all have the same right, then you are beyond help. I gave you a perfect good example of how we don't. I suppose you are so compassionate that you feeling that losing your job over being gay is fair. BAH! Enough of this. You're hopeless... and I sincere doubt you have gay acquaintances, let alone friends.

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well, that just shows how much you know, and where assumptions leave you.

You guys are the ones that have things twisted, you have this sick sence that if I dont agree with every facet I must be one of the "bad guys", well THAT is why you are still in this fight. Theres no being reasonable and meeting anything in the middle with you. Thats ok, it doesn't hurt my feelings one bit, that you think I have no friends gay or otherwise. My friends have no issues with me. Whats the matter, did I hurt your precious feelings because I wont just bow down to total political correctness? whatever. I'm just thankfull this is a fight I dont have to take up myself, because I would have went at it, alot different, considering how the fight has gone I would suggest you consider the same.

The Transporter is going to suck if they allude to him being homosexual period. not because of the homosexuality, but because there is no point to mentioning it, other than to get gays and conservatives in an uproar, you guys fell right into the directors trap. way to go genious.

and I'm clueless?
heh yeah. keep telling yourself that.

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John, you seem to be of the opinion that someone is looking for a fight here. It's not me... so it must be you. I'm merely stating facts. Facts you may not care for, but that's tough.

When I mentioned that I get taken for straight... that wasn't an accusation. Your question was "Why do gay people have to announce their sexuality?" That's why... otherwise, we (well, most of us) are assumed to be straight. YOU don't have that problem. NO, I don't expect straight people to recognize that I am gay on sight, but assumption is just stupid.

You also seem to be of the opinion that gay people are treated equally. I don't see how on earth you can say that. In 39 out of 50 states, you can be fired from your job or be denied housing for being gay. No other reason necessary. And don't give me that guff about "no one on your job should be aware of your sexuality"... Please! Are you telling me you don't talk to your co-workers about your girlfriend/wife? They ask about your plans for the weekend... what do you say, "None of your business". Yeah, right. What you don't care for is GAY sexuality being in your face... well, tough... WE deal with straight sexuality being shoved in our faces every day.

Do you realize that because of the lack of equality in marraige rights that gay couples that were victims of hurricane Katrina will have uncountable problems. Because they aren't married, if something happens to one partner, the other has little control. They could lose their homes, finances, children. They could be denied hospital visitation rights or the right to make medical (possibly life-saving) decisions for their partners. And before you go off on some tirade about "they can have documents drawn up"... true, however, states can/will/HAVE denied the rights even with legal documents... and the documents don't always transfer state to state if these couples have had to evacuate.

As for making comments about stereotyping on tv... I believe what I said was..."what tv does best... play on sterotypes". That includes ALL tv show... From "Queer Eye" to "Will and Grace". I haven't problem one with gay humor...or being part of the joke. However, I am a little tired of gay people ALWAYS being the joke. They need to get over it.

Now, I don't really know anything about this movie.. but if alluding to the character as gay is going to make a difference, then that all by itself proves there's a problem somewhere. If the character is gay or at least the director wants it seen that way... there is every reason to allude to it in the movie. Are you telling me that James Bond never alludes to being straigt? Indiana Jones? The X-men? Batman? You name it... I'll bet you can tell me THEIR sexuality, right? Oh, but I forgot... that's okay, because they're straight.

I'd be curious to know what your "gay friends" would make of your observations.

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I openly discuss my opinions with them just as I do here with you. And they understand I am not against them or their causes, I am outspoken and blunt which makes me sound crass, but that doesn't prevent me from being right, even if just a little bit.
The "fight" I speak of, is not here on this little blog, it is the fight gay people have to fight for equality. That is why it is a fight I cannot participate in. I'd like to just based on the fact that I do have gay friends, but the truth is you guys really dont want my help because I wont buy into everything. the term EQUAL RIGHTS is thrown around way too easy these days, equal should mean just that.
I see your point as to why Gays point out their homosexualty, I just dont think its really needed. A polite correction usually sets people straight (no pun intended) without too much drama. there are always exceptions to every rule, but in the main..

As for gays legal rights, I'm for it.
but until the US gets more than 50% voting, that will never change.Because there is enough old conservatives to keep them in power. I'm sorry that facet of the law excludes you. I told you before I AM doing my part on that fight because I vote for people who would legalize gay marrige in every state. I suggest you do the same.

Gay people are not ALWAYS the butt of jokes, belive me there are plenty of comedy shows that point out how rediculous hetero people can be too. Comedy gets a pass about PC, because they do find a way to make you realize its nothing personal, An example of that is South park, it has "Big gay Al" yet hes one of the least made fun of characters, Not to mention Mr. Garrison is a transexual now, and yet still the hetero characters get theirs just as much or more. Jesus and God even get made fun of on that show. If an action hero "gets the girl" that does allude to his sexuality, and if the Transporter "gets the guy" thats fine, but explain his affair from the first movie, with the girl. So does that mean hes Bi-sexual or he was "experimenting" In either case, it would make for bad writing, because that is too deep of a sub-plot to tackle on the side like that. "Get the girl" storys are quick easy time fillers, because they require no explanation. If the transporter had been gay all along, then the same would hold true for him. But he wasn't, so now they have to write in a portion that explains it. Sometimes belive it or not movie producers and directors use their medium as a soapbox for their veiws and opinions, sometimes they disguise them as a simple plot twist. Think it was an accident on Starsky and Hutch in the scene where they are running on the beach during Hutch's flashback scene they are both wearing rainbow shirts complete with the corrrect colors? Batman was a notorious womanizer way before they would ever consider mentioning homosexuality in public, they cant change him now, that would be like saying the Predator really is a peacefull creature. Same with Indiana Jones. X-men has a few established hetero characters, but they have room by their very nature for a homosexual character, try writing Marvel comics with a good, gay character and see if you can get them to listen.
for what its worth one of my favorite characters ever is Anne Rice's, Lestat an admitted Bi-sexual before he became a vampire, and an admitted bi-sexual after the fact too. I feel like I've been stereotyped all through this, as "the typical hetero guy".

All of us straight guys dont think the same, not all of us hate, fear, or want any ill-will to come to you, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with everything. I am 110% for equal rights and race relations, but when I see the United Negro Collegefund pay for a kid to go to college yet, being a poor, white guy I get no college fund to go to for help, unless you count my many student loans and the meager $3000 in grants I get. I understand why the fund is there, but do I have to like the fact there is nothing like that for poor white kids?
poor is poor is it not? Now does that fact mean I dislike african-americans? not in the slightest. But that seems to be your standpoint, agree with all of it or none at all. And thats not right, no matter how you look at it.

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Hi John,
No, I don't think you have to agree with me 100% or your a "bad guy". What I took offense to was the "gay people need to shut up and just accept the way things are" attitude.

You don't seem to be getting what I'm saying. Straight society is everywhere. You stated that straight people don't have bumper stickers or wear signs... Really? You've never seen the Hooters bumper stickers? How about the truckers with the naked lady silhouette mudflaps? And thousands of other things that tell you what the sexuality of the person is? I don't see how rainbow flags or stickers, or whatever is any different from that.

As I said, I don't really know anything about this movie... so I don't know (or much care) what the person's sexuality is. If he is an established straight character, fine. But, if the writer/creator of the character wishes to take that in a different direction, I don't see a problem with that either.

Incidentially, I mentioned "X-men"... I was referring to the movies. Where so far (to our knowledge) all the characters are straight. However, in the comic book series, they have established a couple of gay characters. The point I was trying to make with that is you always assume characters in movies are straight... unless told otherwise. The reason you must be told? Because they seem to shy away from the subtle ways that you might find out because they involve things like holding hands, kissing, or some sort of physical affection. A friend of mine went to see "De-lovely", the Cole Porter stoy. When they got to the scene where Porter kisses another man, people actually got up and left the theater. This is why we need education and visibility of such things. Otherwise, people will continue to think that it's strange or wrong.

I, myself, don't always agree with the things that are done in the name of the "gay community". I am an individual first. To quote Ellen DeGeneres, "I didn't work this hard to be myself just to allow some other group to tell me how to act." But, I do recognize that we have to stand together, or we will continue to be treated as second-class citizens. Once I am treated as an equal person, then I'll work on the problems within the community itself.

Take care. Dean

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well said Dean, and I apologize if I accidently insulted you. I didn't mean to. My only quip is, I know a few Lesbian friends who are quite pleased with Hooters attire and stickers, lol.
take care, I'm glad we had this frank discussion, if everyone were so honest most of todays issues would be resolved by now.

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Thanks for the discussion, John. And for being so open and honest. That's the only way issues are resolved. LOL... I, too, have lesbian friends who enjoy Hooters... and Playboy...lol.

For the record, you never struck me as a "bad" person. We just don't always see things as they affect other people. It's natural not to concern yourself with things that don't affect you directly. It's human. But it's one of the things we have to overcome if all 6+ billion of us are going to continue to share this planet.

Take care.

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so who cares if he's gay or not, my chances of being able to throw him and blow him are nill to none but he still is sooo nice to look at, the movie basically isnt worth a flip, but again i didnt go to see it three times already and waiting for the dvd cause it's story line was so compelling, and as far as gay people, if they want to marry and be as miserable at the "straight" people, they should have every right to do so, and sex and kissing belongs in private, the house, the barn, the pool, where ever, not for public display, dont kiss goodnight at the garden gate, love is blind, but the neighbors aint, when we start learning to tolerate each others nuiances and quirks and accept each other for what we are, maybe we wont have to worry about running from the next hurrican katrina.

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