Toronto Dispatch: L'Enfer and Brokeback Mountain
Filed under: Toronto, Festival Reports

l-r: Danis Tanovic, Marie Gillain, Karin Viard
In this installment, guest blogger Taylor Barratt has his hopes crushed by gay cowboys and the new People's Choice voting system.
Before I get to the two screenings we caught today, I want to get further up on the soapbox over the change to the People's Choice award this year.
First off I should explain the way it used to work. See, they had ballots. You wrote down the name of the movie you felt was the best. You dropped it in a box. Congratulations, you’ve just voted.
Now, since the award sponsor in previous year isn’t doing it this year, the festival group is handling it. And the method they chose is, and I think will prove to be, a problem. To start, the goal is for the audience to rip a piece of the ballot handed to them at the beginning of every screening. Their tear will rate it from 1 to 5.
The first problem here is not everyone is handed one in advance of the screening. The next problem is, I’ve seen 7 screenings now, and only at one did they explain how the ballot works. I basically assumed it would be exactly the same as in previous years so I had ignored the ballots until that point. Then the final and largest problem is actually getting the ballots back to the volunteers.
The problem is that at some venues, a volunteer can just stand at the exit with a big bag for everyone to drop them in into on their way out, but at the Elgin Theatre or Roy Thompson Hall, there are a dozen different exits and as I left the Elgin tonight, or last night, I didn’t see any of its exits covered. My fear here is that films screened at the Elgin or RTH are only receiving potentially half the ballots then films screened entirely elsewhere? Personally, after 7 screenings I’ve only been able to conveniently cast a ballot for one of them.
And that particular film was our first of Day 3, L’Enfer. L’Enfer means Hell, and is the 2nd of Krzysztof Piesiewicz’s Dante's Trilogy screenplays. The first one was completed a couple years back in the form of Tom Tykwer’s Heaven. The third, Purgatory, is yet to be produced. Hell is one of those films that, despite its depressing story, is so masterfully executed that it’s simply exciting just to watch it unfold. The film follows the lives of three sisters well into adulthood and shows us their personal hells… all of which involve love in various forms, and all of which are partially derived from the actions of their mother and father at a critical time in the past. The film definitely takes a bit of a neutral stance on the unfolding drama, suggesting that it’s all part of nature, just like the baby Cuckoo we see through the wonderful mood-setting opening credits knocking out the un-hatched eggs from its nest. Then at the start of the film, one of the characters does something they think is right, and the result is further destruction. I was pretty much sold the first few minutes in. Though I must say the soundtrack feels like it may have been lifted from the Harry Potter score trashcan, it was still quite effective in establishing mood.
Following the screening there was a Q&A session with the director and two of the actresses. Nothing overly revealing came from it, other than someone out there didn’t know why the film was called L’Enfer... I sometimes wonder what some people’s criteria are for going to see a film. Though perhaps I’m simply far too anal when it comes to choosing and would benefit from a little more ignorance in selection.

l-r: Brokeback Mountain hairdresser Mary Lou Green, producer James Schamus, Linda Cardellini, Anne Hathaway, Michelle Williams
The next screening of the day was Brokeback Mountain. During the introduction for the film, it’s announced that Ang Lee could not be there to introduce the film, but we’re told it’s because shortly after arriving in Toronto yesterday, he was told to get back on a plane, and go back to Venice as the film had just won the Golden Lion award, an announcement to which everyone enthusiastically cheered for. I mean, why not? We figured they had a sure winner about to be served up in front of us, and I know I believed this film should be a big contender for the People’s Choice award considering the director, cast, subject matter and the likeliness that the Toronto audiences will vote for a film that pushes the boundaries, especially when they’re political or social subjects.
However, I must say after screening Brokeback Mountain, I hope that’s not the best the festival has to offer. That isn’t to say I didn’t think it was a good film, I think it’s more an issue that I personally surpassed the film’s moral state about 10 years ago and therefore the impact of the film is largely lost on me, which leaves me to examine what’s left to absorb. All I can conclude is a fairly uninteresting story about only partially realized love under social restraints, and I’ve seen that theme before in films involving interracial relationships. So for me the film doesn’t break ground in my world. Though the impact it is likely to have on American audiences could be substantial and as such I can see it hyped to the point of Oscar award contention. Furthermore, I really only feel Heath Ledger and Michelle Williams turn in convincing performances, while the others come off awkward in their clothes and environment. Then again, not only can I not relate to socially restricted love, I can’t exactly relate to cowboys either. I expected devastation, and while I felt sadness for the characters, I didn’t feel devastated.
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12-09-2005 @ 11:01PM
Cholo Picante said...
Brokeback Mountain: It's so cool to see men kiss and touch! Who cares if Jack & Ennis are gay or straight? The photography, landscape, music are exquisite.
The boody bump in the tent was hot but I want to see more flesh and sniff around some more. Lots of guys say that they are bicurious these days...Jack was maybe a bit more experienced with the guys! At least in this movie, the stars didn't have to drive their truck over a cliff and die like in Thelma and Louise. We got a few hot peeks into man on man stuff and then we all got punished when Ang knocked off Jack...can't give those queer too much to hope for. Bye bye starlets....
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9-12-2005 @ 11:53AM
John Lars Ericson said...
His review of Brokeback Mountain is one of the most ignorant things I've ever read.
The idea that prejudice against homosexuals is "so ten years ago" - let alone the vague and inaccurate direct-comparison to interracial relationships proves that this viewer is *definitely* heterosexual (and very probably white). I'd suggest that he do some research into the gay experience both in that time period, and of the present. Maybe he'd strengthen his ability to become empathetic.
It's good that he's "over" homophobia that gays experience today. But, as a straight male, did he ever deal with it to begin with? Not to mention that violence against gays didn't begin, and certainly didn't end, with Matthew Sheppard. I can name crimes that were even more gruesome and vile, that occured just this past year - and are occurring to this date.
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9-12-2005 @ 1:43PM
Nathan said...
John,
Your quotation "so ten years ago" appears nowhere in Barratt's post. Something similar--but much less inflamatory--does appear. Are you able to see the difference?
Your other quotation is equally dishonest: "It's good that he's "over" homophobia that gays experience today."
He said no such thing. Yes, he did use the word "over." You seem to have learned everything you know about making accuration quotations from studying movie ads.
Barratt simply said that the film is offering a sermon to a viewer who, in his case, is already among the converted. He said so in the kind of awkward, repetitive language that characterizes most Cinematical posts. But that's all he said.
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9-12-2005 @ 3:06PM
John Lars Ericson said...
My usage of quotations wasn't trying to directly-quote the article. Sorry if it caused confusion.
The idea of the film preaching to the converted doesn't seem to make much sense in this instance. How exactly *wouldn't* the film preach to the converted? Should it be dumbed-down and simplified somehow so heterosexual audiences can relate to the idea of homophobia?
Doing so would simply create a dishonest film and would be pandering to prejudice. It isn't the film's fault that Karina is completely misinformed on the topic and is too close-minded, and closed-hearted, to move beyond such ignorance.
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9-14-2005 @ 11:34AM
M. White said...
I agree with the poster named John... the issue of violence/intolerance against homosexuals is still a very topical issue. And comparing the relationship in this film to interratial romance is just ignorant - for one thing, it's not ILLEGAL for people of different races to get married. Saying this issue no longer has any impact because of Stonewall is like saying that Juliane Moore should have run away with her gardener in Far From Heaven because the 1950's were long after the Emancipation Proclamation.
Sounds like you would rather that the love that dare not speak its name would just shut up.
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9-13-2005 @ 1:10AM
J Sefton-Parke said...
A very poor review by someone who obviously felt that he had waisted his "precious" time viewing the film. Find another reviewer, one preferably in touch with the sceenplay.
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9-13-2005 @ 12:09AM
Taylor Barratt said...
It would have been so easy for me to reverse your comment on me being ignorant based on the things you said, but instead let me reiterate.
To start, Karina didn't write the review. I did. Secondly, I've seen the film, you haven't. Next, the goal of the film is to use homosexuality in a very "heterosexual" of film genres. My problem with the film is that since it doesn't break any ground on the genre short of it's "homosexual gimmick" it therefore is somewhat of a failure. Had I felt devastation for the characters as I'm SUPPOSED to then I probably would have felt differently. Since I didn't, I don't think it achieved it's "artful" goal. But as I said, I think it will get somewhere with the average "American" audience (i.e. 'the non-converted') as the film may help them see homosexual love as no different than heterosexual love.. love is love. My point was I already knew that.
That said, one great thing about the film is it really doesn't direct your attention at homosexual hatred, which it so easily COULD have to ellict the viewers emotions, the reason it's probably absent is because, as I said, the goal is to make a love story in the most straight-forward of manners, using homosexuals (well, not exactly.. see the movie, you'll know what I mean), repetitive use of gay bashing would have been cheating, and would have demeaned the film.
Look the time period in the film is purley to serve the plot, I think ultimately the film would have been more effective a love story if it was indeed done in modern day america (blue states). Trust me, the film really isn't a portrait of homosexual life in a particular time period...actually the film carries through easily into the mid-80's where as most of us know the lifestyle was FAR less of an issue. Sure in the 60s that's the excuse for these characters, as they go off an make "proper" lives for themselves... in fact that excuse probably works a bit into the 70's period of the film, but nearer to the end of the film, those excuses don't hold as much water anymore... there's more to it, but I'll leave that up to people who want to see the movie to discover.
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9-13-2005 @ 3:32PM
John Lars Ericson said...
The arrogance, for one, that you consider yourself as "one of the converted" - when at the end of the line you essentially say that you don't understand the gay experience at all, and refused to even attempt to relate to it. Must be the film's fault, eh?
I've read the short story and these characters are homosexual - regardless of whether or not they marry. Haven't you ever heard of someone marrying for the fact of social convention?
The issue of 'direct' homophobia isn't taken on by Annie Proulx, necessarily - but one would have to read between the lines (gasp!) in order to grasp a greater understanding of how homophobia effects their lives.
My basic point is that, from the basis of your review - you aren't "one of the converted." You may have some sort of vague, guilty-liberal notion of what homosexuality is and how you politically support gay marriage, or whatever else you can pat your own back over, but this review and your reply pretty much state the obvious: ignorance.
PS - try to stay away from attempting to provide insight into the history of homophobia (1960s, 70s, 80s, etc.) - when you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Also - using the term "the lifestyle" to express homosexuality makes you sound like a fundementalist Christian talking-point.
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9-13-2005 @ 10:05PM
James Simpson said...
The original reviewer is obviously a heterosexual man.He tries to hide his homophobia by attempting to being "open minded" just because he saw the movie. I saw the movie as well on Monday and let me tell you it was INCREDIBLE!!! This movie is SOCIALLY IMPORTANT and ARTISTICALLY IMPORTANT at the same time. The comments about being gay was an issue "ten years ago." Is incredibly ignorant.Gay men in Toronto are being raped, killed, beaten, bashed yet the press doesn't talk about it... Gay men we encounter so much violence in society now and many years ago. In California the case of a transgendered teen is almost over whom was killed by three boys and they had to have a second trial just to convict two of them! Yes the gay issue is the ISSUE because its the central CONFLICT of the movie. The movie challenges assumptions about MASCULINITY and PATRIARCHY. Seems to me the original reviewer has a problem with GAY MALE SEXUALITY. We are so used to seeing HETEROSEXISM thrown into our faces on television, movies, books, TV, and radio,internet. For once FINALLY a gay romance is being told...This movie is GROUNDBREAKING because unlike the crappy Alexander this movie goes ALL THE WAY....There is graphic gay sex, numerous kissing in the movie and gay male intimacy...
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9-14-2005 @ 1:01AM
Taylor Barratt said...
Oh my god, you guys are too much. You know what they say about people see what they want to see... why you choose to see hatred or homophobia is beyond me. I have close friends and family who are gay, I mean, give me a break, not only wasn't the originaly post NOT a review, it was mearly an opinion and my attempt to find a technical reason for why the film didn't give me the same impact it obviously gave the Venice Film Festival competition comittee.
***SPOILERS***
I don't care what's in the short story. Ennis is not homosexual. If he is intended to be, then that's another HUGE failure on the part of the film maker. Ennis is either afraid of societial reprocussions of what Jack wants him to do or he himself is actually homophobic. I figured it was the fear, though he has a couple reactions in the movie that could argue the other way. Jack, on the other hand is definately homosexual. This relationship echos exactly one of a close friend of mine, who is not gay, whom actually had a quite serious and lengthly gay relationship. So this subject this is something I'm "intimately" aware of. As you should know, having sex with someone of the same gender does not make you homosexual, but as I indicate, I have not read the short story, so I don't know what's in there... OR the screenplay, all I know is what I saw on the screen, and it did not blow me away.
As for this whole "10 years" comment. Look, that's a personal statement that the film probably would have had a bigger impact on *ME* 10 years ago when I wouldn't have been as prepared to see such a film and it's existence then I would have considered groundbreaking. That does not mean I think sexual or racial discrimination no longer exists, though a film like this is far more acceptable today than ever before, which in turn, lessens it's impact (ON ME). I already said I think it will be good for American audiences, what more do you want?
BTW the usage of the term lifestyle is because that is exactly what Ennis wants to avoid. He's fine with the sex, but he doesn't want to make false appearances or carry on what others perceive as a homosexual lifestyle. Jesus, see the movie first and think about what I'm saying then bitch to me, prove to me I missed something in the film. I talked to several other people about this film today and while they all enjoyed it more than I did, none of them denied my opinion, none of them argued with me about it either, they agreed in almost every area but were more forgiving of those faults in light of what they took away from it.
BTW.. Simpson...where's the graphic gay sex? THERE IS NONE. Oh sure, there's a handful of thrusts from the chest up but you'll get 10 times that from one episode of Queer as Folk.. which, I would love you to explain how such a homophobic guy as myself would have bothered not only watching, but collecting.
Look, I'm sorry I bruised the gay holy grail film of the moment. What can I say... it's just not that powerful. It's good, no doubt, and I've said that. It's just not great. Wanna see a good film involving gay love... If memory serves, Gods and Monsters was pretty good, though seeing as how I saw it 7+ years ago, perhaps it had a bigger impact on me then, and yet today I would probably just find it "good". And this brings me back, again to a prior comment... as I said I was trying to find reasons for why I didn't think the film was great and yet it still won the Golden Lion, after suggesting performances and story, I also suggested perhaps it's simply because I've never had to deal with preventing or trying to overcome socially frowned upon love. If I had, I would be better invested in the story, it would mean more to me. It's a suggestion as to why it may not have worked for me. And it's also a suggestion of why it's probably going to work very well for a gay audience. You think I'm unsensitive to homosexual persecution, but I was actually trying to be very sensitive to it by suggesting that. But like I said, you'll see what you want to see.
Anyhow, I will no longer entertain any more responses to posts attacking my character, especially suggesting I'm homophobic. If someone would like to discuss or argue points of the film ABSENT of such comments (paranoid, bordering hatred, if you ask me), please feel free to do so and I will try to respond.
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9-14-2005 @ 12:26PM
dnitzer said...
The reviewer wrote above:
"...I don't care what's in the short story. Ennis is not homosexual. If he is intended to be, then that's another HUGE failure on the part of the film maker... Jack, on the other hand is definately homosexual."
Can you explain what you saw in the movie that supports your notion that Ennis is not homosexual? I have not seen the movie, have only read the short story, and Annie Proulx's text makes it clear that Ennis is very much homosexual - a terrified closet case, hiding behind his marriage and children, to be sure - but homosexual all the same. So I am at a loss to imagine how the screenwriters (including Annie Proulx herself) can have missed it.
It is Ennis who assumes the lead in his sexual encounters with Jack. It is Ennis who flips his wife over onto her stomach and takes her from behind, because that is how he likes it, even though she hates it. It is Ennis who nearly "pukes his guts out" when he and Jack first split up. It is Ennis who bolts out the door at their reunion and can't wait to resume their relationship, even calling Jack "little darling." It is Ennis who says to Jack that when they are apart, he wonders about other men on the street and what they do. It is Ennis who collapses to his knees when Jack suggests that he (Jack) wishes he knew how to quit the relationship. It is Ennis who "wrung it out a hundred times" on his own when thinking about Jack. It is Ennis who wakes up to wet dreams over Jack.
The review above is the only one I have seen that suggests the relationship between Ennis and Jack is anything other than a two-sided homosexual love relationship. Even the actors - Ledger and Gyllenhaal - admitted to struggling with their own feelings and fears about how to bring off the strength and the sexuality of the relationship.
If the writer and her screenwriters remained true to the original story, then I have to wonder how you missed all that, when every other reviewer caught all those nuances.
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9-14-2005 @ 12:27PM
dnitzer said...
The reviewer wrote above:
"...I don't care what's in the short story. Ennis is not homosexual. If he is intended to be, then that's another HUGE failure on the part of the film maker... Jack, on the other hand is definately homosexual."
Can you explain what you saw in the movie that supports your notion that Ennis is not homosexual? I have not seen the movie, have only read the short story, and Annie Proulx's text makes it clear that Ennis is very much homosexual - a terrified closet case, hiding behind his marriage and children, to be sure - but homosexual all the same. So I am at a loss to imagine how the screenwriters (including Annie Proulx herself) can have missed it.
It is Ennis who assumes the lead in his sexual encounters with Jack. It is Ennis who flips his wife over onto her stomach and takes her from behind, because that is how he likes it, even though she hates it. It is Ennis who nearly "pukes his guts out" when he and Jack first split up. It is Ennis who bolts out the door at their reunion and can't wait to resume their relationship, even calling Jack "little darling." It is Ennis who says to Jack that when they are apart, he wonders about other men on the street and what they do. It is Ennis who collapses to his knees when Jack suggests that he (Jack) wishes he knew how to quit the relationship. It is Ennis who "wrung it out a hundred times" on his own when thinking about Jack. It is Ennis who wakes up to wet dreams over Jack.
The review above is the only one I have seen that suggests the relationship between Ennis and Jack is anything other than a two-sided homosexual love relationship. Even the actors - Ledger and Gyllenhaal - admitted to struggling with their own feelings and fears about how to bring off the strength and the sexuality of the relationship.
If the writer and her screenwriters remained true to the original story, then I have to wonder how you missed all that, when every other reviewer caught all those nuances.
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9-16-2005 @ 9:45PM
DOLORES BLECHER said...
IT'S A DAMN MOVIE!!!!
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9-19-2005 @ 12:19AM
James Simpson said...
The original reviewer is a heterosexual man that once again utilizes patriarchy to attempt to diminish the gay male love in this movie. I guess for some straight people they just can't wrap their head around the fact that this movie is so groundbreaking...it is so very important...that they attempt to use heterosexism to try to eradicate the gayness and gay love of this movie... Ennis is indeed gay and if you didn't figure that out you're clueless and obviously not a very good film critic. Even Annie Proux said in an interview last year that Ennis and Jack are indeed gay men.They are two men in the West that come from a traditional society that frowns on homosexuality. The gay male love is the core of this movie its the center. Its the conflict about why do these men love each other so much...yet Ennis has conflicting feelings part of him of course loves and is devoted to Jack but he is afraid of the homophobia he is afraid of anyone finding out and he pushes Jack away...He refuses to committ to Jack...
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9-17-2005 @ 11:25PM
Paul Raposo said...
Yet another heterosexual who has "close friends and family who are gay..." which gives them carte blanche to pontificate on something he knows little about.
>As you should know, having sex with someone of the same gender does not make you homosexual<
It doesn't make you straight, either. Once again, the act is being separated from the emotion. If your "friend" had a lengthy gay relationship, then clearly they had feelings for each other. They may refute those emotions today and the effect on they're sexuality, but the length of the relationship belies it's true resonance. Leaving a gay relationship does not make you heterosexual.
>the goal of the film is to use homosexuality in a very "heterosexual" of film genres<
Homosexuality has appeard in westerns for decades. Not out front, but beneath the surface, where it had to be decyphered by those in the know. To lable any film genre as specifically straight, demonstated your arrogance in believing that homosexuality is, as you put it, a
>"homosexual gimmick"<
to be used as a plot device. The fact that homosexuality and the love that flows from it, is at the forefront of the film, shows clearly that it did break new ground on an old genre. No longer relegated to between the lines, the gay characters are there and visible. "Red River Valley, " this is not. If you weren't capable of seeing this, then either you haven't seen enough films to compare, or you just don't understand.
>Look the time period in the film is purley to serve the plot, I think ultimately the film would have been more effective a love story if it was indeed done in modern day america<
The time period follows the story. To deviate from the storyline is feeble-minded. To remove the story to modern times to demonstate, in your belief, a harsher time for homosexuals is plain lazy film making. Any epoch has been difficult for us, some less so than others, but all depending where you are located. It's no harder to be gay today, than yesterday, nor is it easier.
>actually the film carries through easily into the mid-80's where as most of us know the lifestyle was FAR less of an issue.<
Where? We're talking about two men, cowpunchers, born and raised in Utah, where men are men and homosexual ranchers are murdered. To believe that these two would run off to NY, or any other place where you seem to believe homosexuality is more accepted, is assinine. Even today, in Toronto two men can be harrased, ridiculed and followed for holding hands in public. I know.
>I talked to several other people about this film today and while they all enjoyed it more than I did, none of them denied my opinion, none of them argued with me about it either<
It's very easy for heterosexuals to stand around and decide a character isn't gay enough, because they haven't acted in a way these people believe would clearly indicate he's gay. Both characters may have had wives, but it's clear that this was only because they were following society's conventions. The fact that both men let their wives move on, but held onto their relationship with each other for two decades demonstrates that both are homosexual.
>BTW.. Simpson...where's the graphic gay sex? THERE IS NONE. Oh sure, there's a handful of thrusts from the chest up but you'll get 10 times that from one episode of Queer as Folk<
Did you want porn, or did you want cinema? Sure, I would have liked to have seen these two give a performance that would make Gale Harold and Randy Harrison blush. But clearly neither actor, the director, or the producer were man enough to present such a frank and graphic depiction of gay sex. And clearly, many who make up 95% of the population aren't ready to see it.
>Look, I'm sorry I bruised the gay holy grail film of the moment.<
This is so patently ridiculous and for the most part, anti-gay, as to not warrent a reply. The idea that you see a gay themed film as something that the gay community would use as some holy prop to indoctrinate the world is nauseating. Is this why you didn't enjoy the film? Did you feel you were being taken in by the gay agenda?
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9-19-2005 @ 6:39PM
dnitzer said...
I'd still like to know what Taylor Barratt saw *in the movie* that led him to the conclusion that Ennis is not a homosexual, but Jack definitely is (according to Mr. Barratt's interpretation, at least). That's such an odd conclusion to come to for anyone who knows the story, and I wonder where his idea came from to differentiate between Ennis and Jack like that.
One of them might be more out or self-accepting or self-aware than the other one; one of them might be more able to verbalize his thoughts and feelings; one of them might be more sexually active and expressive; but to say that one is not homosexual while the other one "definitely" is, sounds to me like Mr. Barratt is not nearly so enlightened as he wanted us to believe. Either that, or the movie took an unexpected departure from the original story, and everything I have read about this production says that did not happen.
Mr. Barratt, are you still there?
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