BTW, Xenu is the bad guy according to Scientology wackos. They believe that he is the one that stuck a bunch of people in volcanos and hurled a neutron bomb at 'em. Bunch a wacky nuts over there!

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wikipedia has a good explanation of xenu :o

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It should be named "1" or "Control"

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I think you guys are having way too much fun here, yes Tom said some stupid things it's no different than having the pope funeral aired on TV having others forced to miss a Tv show it was crammed in our face. But here are my guesses a girl Gabrielle for a boy Lestat :) have fun with it I know you will

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Hey! This game comes from TomCruiseIsNuts.com Check it out!!

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Given the fact that I'm obviously the only Scientologist here, I'll make a bet that NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON can tell me where the word "xenu" or "space aliens" turns up in any Scientology literature. Having read Mr. Hubbard's materials for 26 years, this is a bet I know I'll win. All of this garbage about my church is manufactured by the media and people who fear their crimes will be exposed. Any takers??

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Well Mike, as a scientologist you are not clued in. But that is not surprising. Zenu can be found in the oh so confidential scriptures of OT III. So either you haven't reached OT III or you are a liar. How do I know? I was in for 29 years - and I've seen the materials. Please Mike, get on the internet and read both sides before you waste anymore time and money!

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Tom named his daughter Isabella after Isabella Rosselini he directed in Fallen Angels years ago.
But, the problem is Travolta who urged Tom to call "Porsche" for a boy or "Ferrari" for a girl.

i fear for Tom and Katie's child if they listen to him!

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well from my oppinion i think xenu is a wonderful name
i think any name that they chose is really going to be nice. oh and tom and katie i thein you guys make a cute coupple!!!
tom cruise i this u are
so hot i love you! u rock!

your sexy fan,
Arya

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My vote is for Xandir that darling video game hero in "Drawn Together."

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L Ron Hubbard's real first name was Lafayette. I hope they don't name the baby after him.

www.xenu.net

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With Katie being the virgin Mary and Tom thinking he is god, there is only one name Jesus.

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Hey Nance, what have you done that you wouldn't want the church finding out about? Drinking while on course? Out 2-D? Still doing drugs? Or maybe you stole something? Why don't you get your sec checks, work up thru the conditions and get it over with?

I HAVE read both sides. Let's just say, I don't think "squirrel meat" is too nutritious.

You never did cite an available reference. If it isn't written, it isn't true. Show it too me IN PRINT.

C'mon Nance. Time to "fess up". I dare you to email me - sniperdoc2006@yahoo.com - I doubt you have the guts. Mike

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Mike,

The OTIII document written in LRH's own hand is viewable here:

http://www.xenu.net/archive/OTIII-scholar/

Using your logic; It is written, therefore it is true. Seriously though, why can't you guys just admit that it is what you believe? It isn't provable one way or the other, just like creationism or evolution. Just exclaim proudly that you believe in Xenu and Body Thetans, people will respect you more for that than the ridiculous lengths your group goes to hide their doctrine.

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I think tom should name his baby "Fast" Fast Cruise would be an interesting name in my mind. Don't you think? I wonder what Tom's original last name was. Anyhow he should give a name that works with the last name.

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I think tom should name his baby "Fast" Fast Cruise would be an interesting name in my mind. Don't you think? I wonder what Tom's original last name was. Anyhow he should give a name that works with the last name.

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First of all Jim, just because it's written doesn't make it true. Second, it's rather obvious that xenu.net is not a website to be trusted. Third, it's NOT what I believe and I'm NOT going to admit to something that's NOT true. I honestly knew nothing about "xenu" or "body thetans", til it turned up in the newspaper.

But, I have all of the books. (I have a large wooden armoire with nothing but LRH books in it.) The books make no mention of any of that. I read the books. The books deliver exactly what Hubbard promises.

You and Nancy seem to be bent on "proving" that there's something wrong with Scientology. So, c'mon. Let's get down to the real deal here. Pick a book, (New Slant on Life, Dianetics, Fundamentals of Thought, etc.) and show me what's wrong with Scientology or Dianetics. Hell, I'll even let you generalize. Show me one falsehood in any book written by Ron. (Don't take anything out of context or I'll expose you and make you the laughingstock of the net.)For those of you who don't know, Hubbard wrote hundreds of books and Jim is welcome to take his pick.

Do you dare take on a specific? OK, here goes; Show me how Hubbard's "Science of Survival" does not predict human behavior.

Real Scientology is not on some dumb ass, unreliable website like xenu.net.

Real Scientology is in THE BOOKS, Jim.

Show me what's wrong with THE BOOKS, Jim.

Never in my 46 years have I ever seen such vicious people spread such vicious lies about a group that is truly out there just to help people improve conditions. Mike sniperdoc2006@yahoo.com

P.S. - For anybody who's paying attention, Nancy never got back to me. And if Jim has the balls to write me, I'll be happy to inform the world how he proved me wrong. Better get to work, Jim. You have a lot of reading to do.

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Mike,

How can you claim that the OTIII document is not true when it was verified by one of RTC's own lawyers, Helena Kobrin? There are also multiple voice recordings of LRH's instructional speeches where he references Xenu.

I made no claim about any other book, belief or document concerning Scientology so your dare for me to disprove all of Scientology is misdirected and will not be undertaken.

In order to stay on this specific topic could you please answer the following questions:

1. Is there an "OTIII" level in Scientology?
2. If yes, have you studied the OTIII level yourself?
2. If yes, do the training materials, documents contained in that level have any mention of Xenu?

Note that the above are all YES or NO questions.

Believe me, I have no objection to Scientology as a whole. I fully support any individual or group to believe what they want, esp. when it comes to their belief of human history and experience. I am just trying to understand why your group is so sensitive about and unwilling to admit the existence of this exact, particular piece of doctrine.

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Tom Cruise's real last name is Mapother. It's Irish. And despite all the blatherings in the media, I hear he's a great guy. At least, I know Travolta is. I met him and talked to him for about 5 minutes. Real down to earth. The only thing "weird" about Cruise or Travolta, is the fact that they are both celebrities and both are very enthusiastic about living their lives.

(I guess these days, if you get excited and demonstrate your love for a beautiful girl, you're a freak.)

Can't say I blame them. As a Scientologist, I'm enthusiastic about my life, too! Mike

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First of all, Kate will have the baby in February because she was showing much earlier than they announced.



Second, I think April Cruise will be their first choice for a girl since she ditched Chris Klein at that time for Tom. For a boy, Thomas of course! What GOD all Mighty MAN wouldn't name their child after themselves?

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