War of the War of the Worlds
Filed under: Sci-Fi & Fantasy, Celebrities and Controversy, Remakes and Sequels
It's not too often you hear news of a lawsuit over a property that's in the public domain, but here we go: Pendragon Pictures, the folks who put together this movie version of H.G. Wells' The War of the Worlds is filing suit against Dark Horse Comics. The moviemakers claim that the comicmakers have cribbed a whole lot of visuals from their flick, and they've even gone so far as to set up this website to illustrate their arguments.So what do you think: Is it a simple coincidence borne from the fact that both works are based on a common source? Or did the Dark Horse artists actually sit down and copy from Tim Hines' overwhelmingly "faithful" Wells adaptation? Either way it's good press for the Pendragon flick, a film which I'll not share my opinion of at this time ...










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7-28-2006 @ 9:00PM
EatingPie said...
I have not read the complete story by HG Wells so I cannot make a solid judgement.
However, I did notice that many of comparisons share very similar framing. Most stories I've read do not dictate how scenes would be framed in a flm.
-Pie
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7-28-2006 @ 10:52PM
Targ8ter said...
Having read the book, I don't see how they could have created such similar images accidentally. Welles' writing, while highly detailed and often verbose, isn't actually that visually descriptive.
It looks to me like the artist watched the film several times, even if he didn't just sit down and copy frames shot by shot. Which is too bad, because the film's composition stunk.
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7-29-2006 @ 6:11AM
James said...
This guy Timothy Hines is a complete fool. His film is 3 hours long and has thousands of different shots in the film and is based on the exact same story and time period.
I've read Dark Horse comics and seen Pendragons film and while reading it i did not even think about Pendragon Pictures terrible film. Some of the comparisons are stupid like the thunderchild and falling star one. I visit a forum called Eve of the War and someone has created a comparison that proves Dark Horse did not intentially rip off imagery of Pendragon Pictures.
Cook this then pendragon pictures;
http://forums.eveofthewar.com/showthread.php?t=5423
In my opinion and many others this is just another way for these people to keep up sales of there crap DVD. They are complete liars and cons who conned a whole community into buying this film before it was released claiming it was something so much more than it was.
J!
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7-29-2006 @ 6:32AM
Rose Dower said...
Actually, on the Tim Hines site he talks about the people attacking from the other production. Jeff Wayne is the name of a man who has a cheesy 70's soundrack album based on War of The Worlds and, if you can believe it, a musical stage play based on that. It is mostly his supporters that have been slamming Hines. I believe that the eveofthewar site is one of the places they hang out. I looked at the pictures of the side-by-side shots that Tim Hines put up and, oh my god, they look the same. These comic guys copied his movie. No question. Alot of other people seem to think so as well. Check them out. www.martianinvaders.com
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7-29-2006 @ 6:46AM
Judith Golden said...
Actually the person claiming hines somehow cooked the images is the one who has actually cooked images.
I went to the other site and I noticed that they took the least look-alike pictures to dicredit Hines'es point.
They left out about ninety percent of the pictures that Hines put up. And that ninety percent are the ones that are obviously copied. Go to http://www.martianinvaders.com and look at what Hines has put up. My mouth poped open when I saw them.
I see what Hines is saying. They twisted his message by leaving out the ones that looked like they were traced off the TV set.
Last, the other ninety percent of the pictures should be enough to show that the comic book makers saw and copied Hines'es movie. It will be interesting to see how this all turns out.
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7-29-2006 @ 6:51AM
McTodd said...
Shilltastic work there, PieEater and Rose Dower! It's great to see the Pendophiles back at work!
I give Targ8ter the benefit of the doubt as he recognises how crap Little Timbo's tour de farce really is. However, bear in mind that Little Timbo has selected a tiny fraction of the number of frames from Dark Horse's comic and used them very selectively...
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7-29-2006 @ 6:56AM
McTodd said...
By the way PieEater, try reading the source material before posting, it makes you look like an ignoramus who hasn't a clue what he's on about when you don't.
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7-29-2006 @ 2:59PM
McTodd said...
Judith Golden, you are either very thick, or a Pendophile shill. If the former, you have clearly not actually watched Timmy's film, or seen Dark Horse's comic. This being the case, do so, then spend several years training your mind to reach a sensible level of intelligence before posting such utter drivel here. If the latter, get thee back to movie hell Pendophile shill!
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7-29-2006 @ 3:07PM
erich said...
As an animator, I'm siding with Dark Horse. The movie has 1000s of scenes and shots, and the comic has 100s of frames. They both come from the same source that has been adapted from previous comics, books, movies, paintings. Timbo showed what, 30 pictures that look kinda the same? And the fact that half of them don't look the same. And a website showed pictures of previous works of the same scene and they pretty much look the same as the movie and the DH comic..
To me, it's just DH is trying to go for dramatic and movie like angles when it comes to their comics. So of course there are going to be coincidences.
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7-29-2006 @ 6:00PM
Anthony said...
Rose Dower are you Timothy Hines? If you are stop accussing the War of the Worlds and H. G. Wells' community for being a load of Jeff Wayne workers or Paramount Pictures members. Trust me, i know my site members and other WOTW forum members and they are not getting paid off for saying crap about your film.
If you are Timbo, then you are one paranoid git.
Anthony
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7-30-2006 @ 5:32AM
BWFUK said...
OK OK, So here's the deal. We have 2 mediums here: a movie and a comic with the same objective - to copy HG Wells' War of the Worlds closely according to the book. The subsequent result of this is that we have similarities because there is often only so many ways one can portray certain things. Admittedly there are some pictures which look similar, not identical, similar. However, in terms of intellectual property theft there is not enough for a claim especially given the rather pedantic nature of some of the comparisons! It seems to me that this is another chilling and rather desperate PR stunt by Pendragon pictures to try and sell some more DVDs (naturally people will want to see the film because they're now curious).
What I think is the most worrying part though are the malicious and somewhat slanderous dicta which Pendragon is releasing. I can assure the general public that there is no "Jeff Wayne gang" nor a "Paramount posse" that get paid to sit and slate Pendragon in forums that we talk about in. When the director of a film makes misrepresentations about budget, cast, effects etc etc and acts in a completely unprofessional manner, only then for the film to be the complete opposite of what was expected, it was bound to anger the WOTW community. Had there been some honesty, some modesty and some integrity, NONE of this would have kicked off in the first place. So when we get told about our 'shelling' techniques we think we have good reason, especially when we're then labelled and identified as some sort of hit-squad. The WOTW community had pretty much forgotten about Pendragon until this little facade kicked off.
If people knew what we know about Pendragon, there would be no chance of this PR stunt working. Thankfully we like to think of ourselves as decent people and we shall keep our 'ammunition' to ourselves.
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7-30-2006 @ 12:23PM
darkbhudda said...
As much as I wanted to defend Pendragon Pictures, most of the similarities are easily explained by the 100+ years of cinematic composition.
Even the left to right screen framing is standard stuff. The meteorite going from left to right, for example. I can't recall a single movie where a meteorite or similar object came down from right to left.
Facial expressions are pretty standard, so the similiarities are expected.
The woman being eaten rather than the man is the standard crap where a womans death is more horrific than a mans.
At the end of the page I had lost respect for both parties. Both of them seemed to lazily plunder standard cinematical shorthands even down to the one closed eye cliche.
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8-01-2006 @ 6:07AM
Steve Smith said...
Once again, Mr Hines is trying desparately to claw back some money and publicity under his paranoid delusions.
Having made the big mistake of watching his film, I can pretty much guarantee, no one would lower themselves to producing wor kbased on the travesty that was hoisted upon us.
I wonder also, has Mr Hines obtained copyright for taking these images from the Dark Horse comic and displaying them on his website. Surely, blatant copyright infrigement should be met with some sort of legal action from the publishers?
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