Cinematical Seven: Films We'll Never Get to Watch
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I love hearing stories about The Films That Almost Were, although they make me sad because I then want to see the films and can't. Sometimes I hope that when I die, I'll get access to a celestial movie theater that will play all the movies that almost got made but fell through, along with alternate versions of released films but with the originally planned cast or script. I'm looking forward to finally seeing Peter Sellers in Kiss Me, Stupid and Paulette Goddard in Gone with the Wind, but as much as I like Steve McQueen, I'm not sure I'll enjoy him in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. And I can't wait to see Orson Welles' cut of The Magnificent Ambersons. An entire book has been devoted to movies that we'll never see, Chris Gore's The 50 Greatest Movies Never Made, although I've never had a chance to read it. Here's a list of seven notorious almost-made films that I know about. If I missed anything good, let me know.
- Don Quixote -- This is probably the most well-known example of a movie we'll never see. Orson Welles worked on and off to film a version of Don Quixote for 30 years. He took acting roles he didn't particularly like to finance the film, but kept running out of money and the film was nowhere near complete when he died.
- The Man Who Killed Don Quixote -- At least we know the story behind this unfinished Terry Gilliam film and can see tantalizing clips (as in the above photo), thanks to the documentary Lost in La Mancha. However, seeing Johnny Depp in some of those clips makes me even more frustrated that the film was never completed. Gilliam still has plans to buy back the footage from the insurance company and finish the film, so it's not entirely a lost cause.
- The Marx Brothers at the U.N. -- In the early 1960s, Billy Wilder and I.A.L. Diamond plotted a Marx Brothers movie set at the United Nations. The three brothers had not made a movie together in over a decade, and were getting up there in age, but liked the idea. Unfortunately, before the project could go anywhere, Harpo had a heart attack and no one would insure the film. I could see this being a glorious flop, but we'll never know for sure. [Source: Wilder Times by Kevin Lally]
- Roger Rabbit 2 -- Rich Drees has a good explanatory article on why we never saw a sequel to Who Framed Roger Rabbit, even though a script was written and preproduction tests were run. The short version: Too pricey. Considering some of the very expensive flops we've seen released in the past few years, this seems like a real shame.
- Up Against It -- In 1967, British playwright Joe Orton wrote a script for a Beatles movie that was considered too racy and subversive for the Fab Four. According to John Lahr's bio of Orton, Prick Up Your Ears, Orton boasted that the script included the Beatles "involved in dubious political activity, dressed as women, committed murder, been put in prison and committed adultery. And the script isn't finished yet." I'm very fond of Orton's plays (Loot, What the Butler Saw) and can only imagine what the combination of Orton and The Beatles would have spawned.
- A Confederacy of Dunces -- I grew up in New Orleans, the setting for A Confederacy of Dunces, and I feel like I've been hearing about potential movies adapted from John Kennedy Toole's novel for most of my life. John Belushi, Chris Farley, Will Ferrell -- who will they think of next to play Ignatius Reilly? Many articles have been written about the multiple attempts to make this movie -- there's a whole other novel or documentary in there somewhere. The older I get, the more I believe that the spirit of the novel is unfilmable to begin with, so I kind of hope we never see a movie version. (I would have liked hearing the staged reading in 2003, though.)
- Flamingos Forever -- John Waters wrote a script and was in negotiations to make a sequel to his cult film Pink Flamingos, but Divine and Edith Massey died before the movie could be shot. Waters understandably has no intention of making the movie with anyone else. This is probably the movie I'm least sorry to have missed of all the ones on this list; I'm not all that crazy about Pink Flamingos myself and the sequel's biggest attraction to many was its punchline: a reversal of the last scene in the original.
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3-05-2007 @ 4:06PM
Cath said...
Stephen Root, who played Milton in Office Space, is the kind of actor I could have seen as Ignatius P. Reilly. But since this role inevitably calls for a character actor in the lead role, it can't get made in today's Hollywood. Will Ferrell and his ilk do not have the requisite gravitas to pull off the ludicrous poignancy of this character.
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3-05-2007 @ 9:51PM
Gio said...
Also there was a movie Humphrey Bogart and
Ingrid Bergman were suppose to film as lovers after Casablanca but never got made, due to the rival studio only renting miss Bergman for only one film.
The studio fought hard to get this lovely couple to create another masterpiece together but was threatened with a big time lawsuit.
It's too bad.
Anyway, We'll always have Paris.
About Pink Flamingo and its sequal's punchline: a reversal of the last scene in the original.
I have just one word for you: P.E.T.A
My bottom line is: people, why bother with what never was. It only 'is' if it has been.
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3-06-2007 @ 10:48AM
andrew tonkin said...
Re Up Against It:
Of all these, this is the one with the most easily accessible screenplay, having been published in book form many times, for instance:
http://www.amazon.com/Head-Toe-Up-Against-Screenplay/dp/0306808366/ref=sr_1_1/002-5392347-5363239?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1173195937&sr=8-1
Quite a mess IIRC, written more to shock than to entertain. Hard to picture the cuddly Fab Four carrying on like this...
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3-06-2007 @ 11:55AM
Zafner said...
What about Jodorowski's version of Frank Herbert's Dune book? He was in talks initially, before Lynch, and it fell apart. Frankly I'm glad: I've read interviews where Jodorowski states pretty clearly he wanted to change the storyline and characters wildly from the book. Why bother to start with a book in the first place, if you're going to do that?
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3-06-2007 @ 11:44AM
Deadwisdom said...
Oh you missed the very best film that no one has ever seen, and probably shouldn't: The Day the Clown Cried (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_the_Clown_Cried), the Jerry Lewis catastrophe.
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3-06-2007 @ 5:29PM
Franklancer said...
Another Orson Welles movie that never was, Batman, thats right, the voice of the Shadow was quite interested in the character and wanted to make a big budget pre-camp version of the Dark Knight, oh how things might have been had that movie been made..
"the casting notes and confirmation letters from the actors themselves such as George Raft signing up for Two-Face (after Bogart turned it down), James Cagney as The Riddler, Basil Rathbone as The Joker and Welles' former lover Marlene Dietrich as a very exotic Catwoman with the same salubrious past Miller gave the character forty years later in "Batman: Year One." Robin was completely absent from the picture, but the casting of Batman himself was the main reason the picture stalled and was consigned to the history books. Welles wanted to cast himself in the roles of both Batman and Bruce Wayne, but the studio wanted to go with a more traditional leading man like Gregory Peck. Peck agreed and was reportedly even shot in a makeshift costume for the part during a break between filming "The Yearling" and the classic "Duel in the Sun." Welles, however, was incensed at the decision. Despite being friends with Peck, he felt that this casting would completely compromise his vision and was especially angry at the studio's suggestion that he should replace Rathbone as The Joker if he really a part in the picture. The talks ended abruptly, Welles pulled out pf the whole deal and threw himself completely into "The Lady From Shanghai" and the "MacBeth" cinematic feature he had also been preparing for some time."
oh what might have been..
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3-06-2007 @ 2:07PM
rs_martin said...
Willaim Gibson's Mona Lisa Overdrive. Although his stuff has never translated well to the screen. If anything of his would make commeercially on film, this would. The Book rights and some of the characters had copyrights placed on them. It was this caveat that made Johnny Mnemonic such a horrible film.
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3-06-2007 @ 1:46PM
Chuck said...
Lets not forget "Aryan Papers" from Stanley Kubrick. I honestly dont know the detail in the story, but I think that someone who witnesses World War 2 Europe and has these papers that will keep him alive. The thought of what could have been sends chills down my spine.....I believe that production was stopped because of Schindlers List..shame.
link:
http://alexdlg.tripod.com/aryan.html
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3-06-2007 @ 1:56PM
rabbitfist said...
I think Jodorowski's dune would be at the top of my list. Sure it would have been a million miles from the original but he already had HR Giger and Moebius to design the look, Salvador Dali as the emperor of the universe and Pink Floyd to make the soundtrack. After it fell apart the design and effects teams he had assembled joined Ridley Scott to make alien. I shed a little tear for the minds that missed getting blown.
And the Stanley Kubrick version of AI would have been pretty sweet too.
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3-06-2007 @ 2:12PM
amasar said...
Its good that noone made this movies they suck, imo.
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3-06-2007 @ 2:13PM
France said...
Ahem, Kubrick's Napoleon.
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3-06-2007 @ 5:19PM
Franklancer said...
Orson Welles' planned batman movie, with Basil Rathbone as the Joker, and Marlena Dietrich as catwoman, would have come out in the late 40's, and been serious, pre-dating all camp Batman..
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3-06-2007 @ 9:56PM
james said...
I'd agree that Dune needs to be up there. Come on, Salvador Dali playing the Padishah Emporor Shaddam IV, Pink Floyd doing the Soundtrack, and Giger doing art direction? It was destined to be 10 times the weird flop that Lynch's was.
Next to that, Ridley Scott was in talks to direct a version as well. I believe that his version would have been slightly less inspired and creepy, but a much more technically proficient and true adaptation.
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3-06-2007 @ 11:03PM
Rich Drees said...
Franklancer- The Orson Welles BATMAN flick was a hoax created by comics writer Mark Millar in September 2003. The two tipoffs are the imclusion of The Riddler two years before he appeared in the comics and the obvious joke of George Raft accepting a part after Bogart had turned it down.
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3-07-2007 @ 1:00AM
fdsgdsg said...
there is a more then one movie about Don Quixote
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3-07-2007 @ 1:37AM
Brian said...
Von Sternberg's original cut of Greed before the studio got to it.
Of course, it was an 8 hour long silent movie - might have had to watch that in shifts.
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3-07-2007 @ 11:52AM
lejoq said...
Sergio Leone's Stalingrad epic.
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3-07-2007 @ 3:24PM
forob said...
It's also fun to imagine existing movies with different or "classic" casts.
How about a John Wayne sci-fi? It could have happened... and might have been great. For example, "The Thing" with the Duke in the Ken Tobey role. Hey, every other actor in that, except George Finneman, was a western film character actor.
Humphrey Bogart as Indiana Jones?
Jack Nicholson in a George Romero zombie flick (that could still happen... we got Dennis Hopper in one already!)
I'm just playin' the game.
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3-07-2007 @ 11:22PM
Hammad Ahmed Shah said...
I like films very much. I would like to see more and more english movies. These movises are very close to reality the ideas and stories of the movies are very good. these movies provide us an apportunity to gain and expereince.
Hammad
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3-08-2007 @ 9:25AM
j said...
can we add one that 'hasn't been made yet- but i'm still holding out hope?'
i'd kill to see 'good omens' actually make it to the big screen.
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