Director of $4,000 Film Called 'Grindhouse' Claims Tarantino Ripped Him Off!
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In what is surely the most interesting entertainment story I've read this week, an independent filmmaker named Stephen Tramontana is claiming that Quentin Tarantino ripped him off. It seems Tramontana made a movie called Grindhouse for $4,000 bucks in 2002. It was released in 2003, and won Best Horror Film at the New York International Film and Video Festival. Before shooting had even begun, Tramontana and his film's producer briefly spoke with Tarantino about it at a party, asked if he'd watch it when they finished, and QT politely declined. When it was done, Tramontana sent the film and poster to Tarantino's production company anyway. It was signed for, but he never heard back from Tarantino. Cut to 2007, and the Tarantino/Rodriguez Grindhouse. Now Tramontana is angry. Over at the website for the 2003 film, therealgrindhouse.com, you'll discover that Tramontana is very serious, saying: "Quentin Tarantino is a thieving piece of shit and he knows it. He stole Grindhouse from a bunch of kids who were just asking for his help and he helped them by stealing their title and concept." Whoa!
Tramontana says that Tarantino always talks up the movies he's going to do far in advance and that he never heard a peep about QT's Grindhouse until 2004, after the 2003 Grindhouse had been sent to his door. Tramontana's claims are interesting, but even he seems to realize they won't hold water, especially not in court. Apart from the title and I suppose the fact that they're honoring the same genre, the two films have absolutely nothing to do with each other. My immediate thought was that this guy was doing it for the cash, but to counteract that claim, he's planning to donate all profits from the film to an independent film fund. Considering the movie can be downloaded from his website for 99 cents, that's probably not going to amount to much, but it definitely paints him in a more flattering light. And hey, stirring up the "scandal" is working: He's already getting a lot more exposure for his film.
Tramontana tried to get Dimension to drop the title, and as we know that didn't happen. He says on the site "To me, there's no way on God's green Earth, that two movies called Grindhouse devoted to the idea of those old films, could be released." That claim strikes me as a bit ridiculous, especially considering the fact that Tarantino grew up on these films and knows just about every detail about them. Tramontana also repeatedly calls Tarantino a thief, who has been "outright stealing shit" for some time. Sure, Tarantino wears his influences on his sleeve, but Tramontana posts a Film Threat review of the 2003 Grindhouse on his site that certainly doesn't make the film seem all that original, and even notes a perceived Tarantino influence. I feel like Tramontana is sort of overshooting his little film's impact here. A guy like Tarantino probably gets hundreds of indie movies and scripts sent to his office each week, and I have my doubts that he would look at any of them. Still ... it's intriguing isn't it?
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4-11-2007 @ 6:44PM
bgdc said...
The title is about a genre of films. The concept revolves more around the genre. Nothing was stolen. Somebody is looking for a handout...
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4-11-2007 @ 10:33PM
nefariousone said...
He says Tarantino stole the concept but I don't see how the two relate when their is a single movie in his version. Maybe the name "Grindhouse" gave Tarantino an idea, but that is hardly stealing.
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4-12-2007 @ 2:07AM
someone said...
The only thing that will happen as a result of this guy's claim is that he will never get a job in hollywood again (if he's ever had one to begin with), and maybe lose his current one. Taking shots at a heavy weight like QT with little to no substance behind it is career suicide.
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4-12-2007 @ 3:28AM
brock_samson said...
You have got to be kidding me. QT is offal to the core.
The dude looks like a total shark. He's the only current Indie Director that's gone mainstream to have sunk to such lows. By the way why did he give the film the same name? He's got balls the size of melons. Thats why and he's got the Studio to back his ass. Just like Warner did for the British thieving writer of Harry Potter. Another woman had already published a novel just like Harry Potter. The thief had a better lawyer so she won. Just like how this will goes down if QT is pressed.
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4-12-2007 @ 11:18AM
josh said...
I haven't watched the film, but I'm sure the guy is probably just chasing publicity. Tarantino does lift from films, but generally old ones. Grindhouse is, as others have mentioned, a loose genre. The idea of naming a movie after that is not particularly unique.
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4-12-2007 @ 11:22AM
Targ8ter said...
You can pretty much guarantee that QT doesn't watch any unsolicited films or read any spec scripts for just this reason.
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4-12-2007 @ 11:21AM
josh said...
"By the way why did he give the film the same name?"
However much you don't like Tarantino, if you think that he didn't know what the term "grindhouse" meant before 2003... you don't know much about the dude, or exploitation cinema.
Grindhouse Releasing is a company that has worked with Quentin Tarantino that re-releases old exploitation and horror films, they have been around for a DECADE (long before this other guy's movie). They re-released the Beyond in 1998... this re-release was financed and produced by Quentin Tarantino & his Rolling Thunder Pictures. They also re-released Cannibal Ferox, Cannibal Holocaust, and many other classic grindhouse-style films.
So, yeah... the term Grindhouse is nothing this filmmaker made up, nor is it the first time Quentin Tarantino had heard the name, considering he partnered with a company that has that same name 5 years before this guy's movie came out. Unless that other movie is about a stuntman who kills people with his car, I doubt there is any plagarism.
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4-12-2007 @ 1:26PM
robert said...
so you've got Tramontana with a movie titled "Grindhouse" and based on the synopsis and review of the film it has absolutely nothing in common with "Death Proof" and "Planet Terror" the Tarantino and Rodriguez films... other than they decided to refer to the grindhouse genre by calling it a Grindhouse double feature.
This guy thinks he was ripped off for the title and concept? It's hard to lay claim to grindhouse as a title since it's a reference to a genre that's been around for more than 30 years. As for concept... these films have nothing in common.
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4-12-2007 @ 3:30PM
ThePete said...
In my opinion, "QT" is a rip-off artist extraordinaire. Most of his stuff is thinly veiled theft from other, many would say better, films. That said, if the premise of this other dude's grindhouse movie is different from the premise of Death Proof, obviously the guy is looking for publicity. Even if he won't make money, he's getting his name out there. As for not working in this industry again because of him taking on a "heavyweight" like QT? If he comes up with something people will pay for, he'll get work.
Besides, he's selling his movie just fine on his website right now, I bet. We're entering into a media world where a job in Hollywood is not required to have thousands or even millions of people see your movie.
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4-12-2007 @ 8:48PM
Wayne said...
It's hilarious to watch everyone foam at the mouth over
a complete
non-issue. Copyright Law does not in any way, shape or form protect
titles of individual literary or film works. Nor are ideas
copyrightable. The films bear no resemblance to each other,and the
term Grindhouse predates either of the films. There can be no rip-off
here, it's just not possible. And since both films suck (and were
actually intended to suck), what's the big deal?
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4-14-2007 @ 9:28PM
dw said...
At least this guy made more money out of it than Tarantino is going to.
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4-15-2007 @ 11:27PM
Denis said...
It would be unusual for QT to steal anyones film property. When he has used other writers property, he has always given then credit for it.
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4-15-2007 @ 11:29PM
Sofabean said...
Go look at the trailer for the "original" Grindhouse. Its a peace of crap. QT clearly did not steal anything seeing as the concepts of the movie are completely different. Grindhouse isn't an original tital either, as its a genre of movies. This guy is tottaly out for publicity and money.
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4-15-2007 @ 11:47PM
howdy said...
QT sucks I never liked his films they just plain stupid and soooo fake!
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4-16-2007 @ 12:23AM
quicklime said...
That Tarantino bastard did the same thing to me with my scrrenplay "Kill Phil".
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4-16-2007 @ 2:02AM
Richard said...
QT is about as original as hip hop producers who sample pieces of songs from 25 years ago for a quick hit. It might sound a little different...more modern..with a new attitude..but not original and almost always forgettable just like QT's films.
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4-17-2007 @ 12:29AM
JT said...
Quit hating on QT. He is an excellent filmmaker and somebody who knows his stuff. Check out documentaries he's been interviewed in, such as "The Cutting Edge". Just because average "Joe Citizen" doesn't understand the underlying themes or motivations to QT's style of films, they feel that they have to bash him as a director. The problem is, due to these same morons, horrible fad films like "Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift" make money, whereas a films (such as one's QT works on) that require more than 5 minutes thought to create get flamed on the internet.
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