Smokin' Joe Says Violent 'Captivity' Ads Piss Him Off
Filed under: Horror, Fandom, Politics
I'm not sure if Joe Carnahan is the right person to take a strong stance against gratuitous violence in movies, but his arguments are valid and he presents them in a way that just makes you laugh. Over on his blog, Carnahan wrote a little rant on the "torture porn" phenomenon, although he made sure to begin said rant by pointing out the reasoning behind two pretty vicious scenes included in his last flick Smokin' Aces. Once that's out of the way, the dude goes off on the use of females in these types of films, saying it's something he finds "personally f*cking revolting." And I certainly agree with Joe, especially when he begins talking about Saw.
As I've said before, I watched and enjoyed the first Saw film (which I consider more of a psychological thriller than a straight-up horror flick). But the films that followed (which include both Hostel flicks) seemed to drift from that element, only to concentrate on (as Carnahan says): "this overblown, carnage level, blood sodden grand guignol aimed at the most base, depraved parts of the human psyche." Carnahan continues his rant: "I see these ads for Captivity and the wallowing in and fetishism of torture and I want to put my fist through something solid. And I don't think there's some political overtones or some Iraq/Abu Gharib allegories at work here. F*ck that, it's about titillation and ticket sales."
So what's the answer here? Carnahan admits that he's not looking for censorship, calling it "the refuge of chickensh*ts and cowards," but he does ask whether we "could and should do a whole helluva lot better." To be fair, After Dark Films' Courtney Solomon recently told me that a lot of effort was put into Captivity so that all the violence had a point, and therefore helped us learn more about both the victim and her captor. Since I have not seen it, I can't tell to you whether that's true, but I do think this trend of torturing and mutilating females on screen is not only pointless, but it lacks creativity. Horror films, to me, are scariest when they force us to use our imaginations. Personally, one of the creepiest moments in the last few years came attached to the film Hard Candy -- more specifically, the scene in which she threatens to cut off his you know what. And although nothing happened, my wife was so disturbed she had to leave the room. Why? Because her imagination took her to a very uncomfortable place. These days, I wish there was more of that. You?
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6-14-2007 @ 3:28PM
Eric said...
Well everyone has the right to an opinion, no matter how wrong it is.
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6-14-2007 @ 3:43PM
Flatrabbit said...
This recent trend of "shock-horror" movies is really getting out of hand. I've seen the original SAW and although it wasn't my favorite movie it at least had some sort of artistic quality to it. The 3 (or 4?) sequels were all just marketing garbage. The same goes for those Hostel movies, that was just trash, with no real redeeming quality to them at all. The real sad part is people still go to see these things in the theaters. If people stopped going then maybe it would send a message to the studios that we don't want this crap anymore.
I also think that more directors need to stand up and make up some kind of guidelines or at least set some kind of example. If more of the people who make movies came out and spoke out against these flicks then it could influence studios to stop funding them also.
Censorship is an option that I personally never consider but there are people out there with much more power than I who are jumping at the chance to inflict censorship upon the movie making community and these "torture" films just make it that much easier for them to find supporters.
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6-14-2007 @ 4:04PM
bgdc said...
1. Joe need to stop using black as his background. F^cker's made me blind for the past two minutes. I'm blinking at my screen and seeing so many lines I feel like I should be peering through shutters as Kim Basinger dances in her undies.
2. The blog suggested Joe had something to say. Cinematical reiterated Joe's whole post - save for Joe covering his balls regarding Roth. Call me odd, but I expected to read something a little bit more insightful when I visited Joe's site. So he thinks torture porn is lame; join the club, Telly Savalas. Why not delve a little into who the films appeal to, why the studios back them (Hostel, Saw, etc make money but how much?) or in general say something beyond expressing contempt for the genre.
I agree with Joe but I foolishly expected him to make a profound statement, not just rant without a punchline.
I think I just did that too. Christ...
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6-15-2007 @ 9:47AM
Dave said...
You hit it right on the head. Of all the gore movies I've watched in the last few years nothing was more disturbing than that scene in Hard Candy. And of all the blood and guts I've seen on the screen, the only thing that actually made me feel sick was when Ellen Page flipped the switch on that garbage disposal.
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