Fan Rant: PG-13 Horror Sucks and I Can Prove It
Filed under: Horror, Fandom, Fan Rant

It's kind of funny to think back and realize that the PG-13 rating was created because of a pair of Steven Spielberg flicks. Boiled down to its essence, the new rating was invented because of A) the heart-ripping sequence from Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom and B) the microwave oven explosion in Gremlins. (Yes, I know Joe Dante directed Gremlins, but it was a Spielberg production.) I remember thinking it was a very smart move: This way movies could get a little more violent / sexy / nasty -- without overdoing it -- and the youthful movie fans could still enjoy the mayhem. But we should have known something was out of whack from the very first flick: The debut of the PG-13 was on John Milius' Red Dawn ... which quickly made its way into the record books as one of the most violent films ever made.
So what began as a simple warning for parents -- "This rating is not 'enforced' like the Restricted is, but we thought you'd want to know that this movie is just a little bit rougher than your typical PG fare" -- quickly became something else: an oasis of profitability wedged between the now-kiddified PG rating and the oh-so-alluring R. Basically, a new rating tailor-made for Hollywood's most coveted demographic: the teenager. (You tell a 15-year-old that this movie is too scary or too sexy for a 13-year old, but not for a 15-year-old, and you're halfway to getting that kid in the door, regardless of what the movie is.)
Over the past 24 years, the PG-13 has become a sacred target for fiscally-minded filmmakers -- especially where horror movies are concerned. Now don't get me wrong: There are tons of "soft" horror movies that are perfectly entertaining, but I'm of the opinion that if you want to make something really scary, then that movie will most likely end up in the "R" territory. Graphic violence, serious tension, unpleasant themes and big-boy scares will pretty much always result in an R rating when all is said and done. Except when the goal from the very beginning is to craft a "PG-13 horror product" that will sell a lot of tickets for three days even though everyone knows it's freaking terrible.
According to the IMDb, these are the PG-13 horror movies that were released by studios between 1984 and April 2008: An American Haunting (2005), Anaconda (1997), Anacondas: The Hunt for the Blood Orchid (2004), Arachnophobia (1990), Alien vs. Predator (2004), Bats (1999), Blood and Chocolate (2006), Boogeyman (2005), The Bride (1985), Cat's Eye (1985), The Cave (2005), Cloverfield (2008), The Covenant (2006), Critters (1986), Critters 2: The Main Course (1988), Cry Wolf (2005), Cursed (2005), The Dark (2002), Dark Water (2005), Darkness Falls (2003), Eight Legged Freaks (2002), The Exorcism of Emily Rose (2005), The Eye (2008), The Fog (2005), The Gate (1987), Godsend (2004), Gremlins 2: The New Batch (1990), The Grudge (2004), The Grudge 2 (2006), The Haunting (1999), Island of Dr. Moreau (1996), Jaws: The Revenge (1987), Lady in White (1988), The Messengers (2007), One Missed Call (2008), The Others (2001), Poltergeist 2: The Other Side (1986), Poltergeist 3 (1988), Prom Night (2008), Pulse (2006), The Ring (2002), The Ring 2 (2005), Shutter (2008), The Skeleton Key (2005), Skinwalkers (2006), Soul Survivors (2001), Stay Alive (2006), They (2002), Tremors (1990), When a Stranger Calls (2006), White Noise (2005), The Wicker Man (2006) and Willard (2003)
I'm sure I've missed a few, but I can only go by what Mr. IMDb Power Search tells me. As you scan through that list, you'll notice two main types of movie: The tongue-in-cheek monster movies (which are usually pretty fun) and the other ones. The remakes, the sequels, the rip-offs ... the commerce, basically. But when you hear film critics and horror fans raving over a new terror flick, it's almost always a movie that pushes the envelope in some way ... hence the R rating. (Anyone wanna see a PG-13 version of The Descent? Inside? Pan's Labyrinth? 28 Days Later? The Host? Oh my bad. None of those were produced by the Hollywood studios.) Call me a bloodthirsty bastard if you like, but for a horror flick to be any good, it really has to offer (at least the chance of) something truly shocking, scary or nasty -- which means the PG-13 rating has no business in the genre. The batting average pretty much speaks for itself: Aside from a stray aberration like Cloverfield or The Ring or The Others, I now consider the PG-13 rating the kiss of death where horror flicks are concerned. I suspected it for years, but I think it was that pathetic new Prom Night flick that sealed the deal.
Then again, the last two really solid R-rated horror movies I saw (The Mist and The Ruins) pretty much died at the box office, so what the hell do I know? Between the financial failures of the grown-up horror movies and the get-rich-quick successes of the PG-13 crap, it's getting pretty tough to be a horror fan these days.
(Note: The pic at the top comes from a T-shirt available at z-boy.com. I need to order one!)









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4-13-2008 @ 8:58PM
MCW said...
You're mostly right. Having seen most of those movies, I can say that they're almost all bad. But you can't dismiss movies like Eight Legged Freaks which are comedic horror movies. Critics are required to say that it is not good because 1) It's a horror movie and 2) It's a comedy. But it wasn't that bad.
I can think of one not on your list that I enjoyed. White Noise 2 is 50 times better than White Noise 1, despite what the bottom-feeders at IMDB may rate it. I recommend it for at least a rental.
I wouldn't have cared or noticed Prom Night was PG-13 if it hadn't been run into the ground by everyone who could talk or type. I haven't seen it yet, but surely it couldn't be as bad as Dark Water, or When A Stranger Calls. Surely not.
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4-13-2008 @ 9:02PM
Scott Weinberg said...
Thanks for the read. To address your points:
1. I was "a critic" when I wrote my review for 8LF. Check Rotten Tomatoes. ;-)
2. WN2 is, imo, quite unexpectedly watchable. Also check RT for my review.
3. It's probably my obsession with JCon, but I really like Dark Water.
4. Prom Night is as bad as When a Stranger Calls, Pulse, One Missed Call and The Fog rolled together.
-sw
4-13-2008 @ 9:01PM
Midnight13 said...
Well, I think the theatrical horrer film as we know it is becoming next to dead. See no truely scary film that comes out be, even the R rated, has become only what the MPAA allows you to see. ALL horrer films be it "Sole Survivors" or "Hostel" are cut done. Then after they bomb in theatres, they probobly do well on DVD with thier "Unrated Versions". Which are so coveted these days. Do you want to own the R rated "Saw" or do you want the cut you couldn't see in theatres? True horrer buffs want the "Unrated" version, 100% of the time. So, if many horrer fans are waiting for "The Ruins" on DVD so they can see a darker, scarier film, then what does it matter if something comes out on PG-13 or R anymore. Fans looking for the rougher material are going to wait no matter what.
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4-13-2008 @ 9:05PM
Scott Weinberg said...
"Do you want to own the R rated "Saw" or do you want the cut you couldn't see in theatres?"
I want the movie to be precisely what the writer and the director want it to be, provided they actually give a crap about the final product.
4-13-2008 @ 9:08PM
Peter Hall said...
22 million dollars. Twenty two million dollars. Twenty two million fucking dollars. PG-13 sucks the soul of the genre. It sucks it long and it sucks it deep. Prom Night isn't just an abysmal movie, it just set the studio horror system back another 5 years.
$22,000,000.00...
Fuck.
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4-13-2008 @ 9:12PM
Scott Weinberg said...
Hey Pete. The $22 million opening for Prom Night is not what we need to worry about. It's the $8 million (The Ruins) and the $9 million (The Mist) that's going to cause our miseries. As much as I disliked Zombie's Halloween, I was pretty happy when it had such a solid opening.
It's not like we get all that many GOOD R-rated horror movies from the studios anyway, but I'm thinking Mist/Ruins is going to make the execs extra skittish for the next few months.
4-13-2008 @ 10:47PM
Peter Hall said...
A resigned, beaten Amen to that, Scott. What are our saving graces this year? The Happening is R, but it also isn't straight horror (as far as I know, which I've admittedly avoided learning about).
The Strangers I'm jazzed for, though I'll admit I'm thrown by Rogue Picture's handling of it so far. Was the market really not right for it last year? Is it a bad flick and they're finally dumping it? Is it a greater beast than the studio knows how to sell? I'm in the dark on it, but man alive does the final, disembodied, indifferent line delivery of the trailer cinch it for me, "Because you were home." Love it.
Trick 'r Treat got the shaft, same for Midnight Meat Train. Quarantine looks like they ran [REC]'s Spanish script through Bablefish, the result of which won't be a bad thing, mind you, but a twinge annoying in the effort department. 100 Feet has got the Eric Red pedigree, but is that really even relevant anymore? Saw V is going to be a wide mouthed yawn at this point. Senator will probably finally plop All the Boys Love Mandy Lane down after Amber Heard makes a name and face in Pineapple Express, but the one chum I've talked to was indifferent to even that. And now that I contemplate importing Robdyr, I see even that hasn't been too well received.
Le sigh.
4-13-2008 @ 10:53PM
Scott Weinberg said...
Yeah, but the good side of our beloved genre is that there's always something smaller (or imported) that's worth looking forward to: The Signal, Teeth, Mandy Lane, Frontier(s), Inside, The Broken, Donkey Punch, Dance of the Dead, Paranormal Activity, [REC], Jack Brooks: Monster Slayer, etc.
I guess that's part of what makes horror so much fun for us: The GOOD studio stuff is rare, but often very good. The GOOD indie stuff is definitely worth getting psyched about, and the GOOD foreign stuff is always worth checking out. But (as in all genres) you have to wade through a lot of crap to find the gold.
4-14-2008 @ 8:23AM
Peter Hall said...
Agreed, but with a caveat: while the studio system is not reliable in the QA department, it is [mostly] reliable in the release department. You've gotta remember that we, the royal we, can't all go to Sun/Slamdance, TIFF, SXSW, Fantastic Fest, or Stiges. We don't get fest screeners. It is promising to know that there are incredible things floating down river worth jumping on, but it is maddening when it takes years, literally, for that output to become throughput.
Even someone like me, someone who actively seeks out films, who talks and writes about 'em every day, who is willing to drop $40 to import a DVD just for a chance to see a new Indie/Foreign gem with any punctuality, even I am lift holding my breath more often than not. Imagine what it is like for the genre fans who don't import, who don't leave near a fest city. The studio system is all they can rely on. Genre fans and critics like yourself do amazing jobs of making known what is and isn't worth it, but all it takes is one smash opening weekend and we, the royal we, are back to holding our breath.
Prom Night's unfortunate success isn't just a blow to future productions, it is a blow to completed films as well. Execs are going to reconsider their current cuts..."Maybe we should trim it to PG-13, guys, I mean, we can always double dip a DVD with the word UNRATED dripping blood on the cover, right?"
4-13-2008 @ 10:37PM
Aaron said...
You're never going to be able to make this argument to a studio exec because The Ring (PG-13) made something like infinity billion dollars.
Movie execs can only hear "___ made a bunch of money, lets emulate it" and have no capacity for "___ lost money, lets try something different."
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4-13-2008 @ 11:09PM
mezzanine said...
Willard was good.
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4-14-2008 @ 6:18AM
Scott Weinberg said...
I agree.
4-14-2008 @ 12:13AM
AuralArgument said...
Hagamaba.
I like horror movies.
I have'nt been scared at a flick in theaters in a long long time. (but I hit the theater 2-3 times a week, so i catch almost everything)
Sure there's plenty of jump moments, but loud music and a flash does a scare not make.
I want to be frightened, I want to come back home after a 10:00 show afraid to turn out the lights.
Most of what is marketed as horror is thrillers with a supernatural element (The Eye).
Just show me something scary, show me something new make me cry.
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4-14-2008 @ 2:16AM
Christopher said...
I'm for 1 a true fan of horror films..& it makes me sick and sad to see the films I grew up with being turned into PG-13 Re-Made shit!! I grew up in the 80's"BEFORE" DVD, IPOD's & You Tube!
The days when there was such as a thing a R Rated horror film I.E. "Prom Night", "My Bloody Valentine", "The Fog" etc..etc...when you had to have either (No Joke) have your babysitter (If you had 1) take you, or someone's brother or sister.
I remember seeing the 1st "Friday the 13" on late night cable (I was 9 or 10) & it scared the crap out of me, or seeing "Terror Train" and being scared! Jamie Lee Curtis was and always be the "Scream Queen"!!
I own a huge collection of horror films, and the orginial "Halloween" is still creepy, along W./the orginial "The Fog" etc..etc!!
The 2003's remake of "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" was crap...you didn't need all the blood etc..unlike the "Orginial" which didn''t show a single drop of blood, it used your imagination, which today's kids don't have ...I guess..??!
The Re-Make"Halloween" was nothig but pure crap!! The reason, & the only reason it did well was Rob Zombie, a lot of kids today never heard of the "Orginial" "HalloweeN" or "Prom Night"..which is sad..it's like losing a part of film history ..called the "Slasher" era!!
What Hollywood should do, is clean up the orginial film, & just re-release it in theaters!!!
Yes, "The Ruins" was bad...I agree, the main reason the director coped out and made a different ending to the book! "
The Mist" I loved it!! Different and creepy!
Horror films have been criticized for their graphic violence and dismissed as low budget B-movies and exploitation films, SO yes the horror fan base is small!
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4-14-2008 @ 5:04AM
josh3_17 said...
i agree, so what do you think about the GRINDHOUSE films. i've only seen PLANET TERROR. they where unrated but not ahugemovie go'er turn out. none the less I thought it to be very fun and smart.
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4-14-2008 @ 6:18AM
Scott Weinberg said...
I think Planet Terror is the best John Carpenter film he never made. In other words, I dig it a lot.
4-14-2008 @ 6:12AM
Chris Vaughn said...
I love your Fan Rants man, you always seem to bring out what everyone is thinking.
The true horror fans are a small crowd, the people who sort of like them, are the majority, and thats what the Suits tailor to, sadly. Horror movies nowadays, or ones that hit the mainstream, are more like scary date movies, rather than making you want to shit yourself good.
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4-14-2008 @ 6:18AM
Scott Weinberg said...
Thank you, sir!
4-14-2008 @ 6:13AM
AJ MacReady said...
I cannot but help and feel your pain, sir. It's true. And the ONE example I'd have used - The Others - you already namechecked. It's true, completely. They don't even seem to try; it's like if they know they have a PG-13 rating that the tweens and teens will storm the theaters and give them the opening weekend they need. I just talked to my girlfriend and she said that her niece saw Prom Night yesterday and loved it (the kid in question is 12). So, sadly, that turns you into a prophet. I saw The Mist and The Ruins in the theaters (doing my small part to keep quality R-rated horror alive) but when I see how poorly they do, it makes me die a little inside. What the holy hell, you know? Yeah, I dig sitting on the couch with a couple bong hits, watching a killer flick, but why can't all of us do so? If everybody who was waiting for the DVD would just GO to the theater, everything would be fine.
Oh, and I realize it does not meet your criteria, but I for one include Big Trouble In Little China (it's got enough horror elements for me), just cause I'm the world's biggest Carpenter fan. I adore Starman (which I saw in the theater), and his next flick was PG-13 so my parents couldn't say shit even though I was 11; I walked 15 blocks to see it back in the day. And my friend and I walked home acting out our favorite parts. THAT'S a movie.
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4-14-2008 @ 6:18AM
Scott Weinberg said...
Perhaps it's as simple as: Young moviegoers will see anything, period. Old(er) moviegoers will wait for DVD on a lot of flicks, especially (apparently) horror movies.
Oh, and I'm right there with you. Best way to get socked in the jaw is to knock BTILC in my presence.