Discuss: Are You Going to See 'The Dark Knight'?
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Last night we took the crew to see Iron Man. You can read James's and Scott's reviews of the film, but I'll just add that this movie ROCKS, and in case you're a parent debating whether to bring your kids to see it, I felt that what violence is in the film is mostly cartoonish, Indiana Jones-level stuff, so if your kids can handle those films, they'll be fine. All of my kids were engaged in the film from start to finish, and there was nothing in it that scared them as much and that damn sea lion in Happy Feet.
But I digress. Before the film, of course, they had the usual array of trailers (Speed Racer, Indy 4, Prince Caspian), and one of them was for The Dark Knight. Now, I've generally been avoiding seeing or reading too much about The Dark Knight, so this was the first time I'd seen the trailer. And my reaction to it was ... I don't know if I want to see this film. Much as I love Christian Bale and Aaron Eckhart, I just found the scenes of Heath Ledger as the Joker oddly painful to watch.
We were at Sundance when the news of Ledger's death broke, and the response among the film journalists there was not what you'd normally expect from people who work in this business to news of another tragic celebrity death. People were stunned, shell-shocked; there were a lot of red eyes around, even among the men, some of who normally tend toward the snarky end of the spectrum. I had to walk out of a room where the TV was showing the typical media blow-out reaction to a celebrity death -- so much tabloidization, so much capitalizing on what was, for his family, just a terrible tragedy.
But that was back in January, so I figured, by now, I'd be fine with seeing Ledger in this role. And after seeing the trailer I'm thinking, not so much. It probably seems stupid, but it was just painful to me to see him in that dark of a role, knowing the downward spiral his life took in the aftermath of that film. Not that I think anyone can say with certainty that playing the Joker directly caused Ledger's death, but the role is so dark, so twisted, and Ledger, in the trailer, seems to so embody that darkness, that I was just a bit overwhelmed by it. And honestly, I just don't know if I want to sit through an entire movie of watching him in that role.
I know, I'm a dork, and it's probably just me, but I wondered -- is anyone else having this reaction to The Dark Knight trailer? Or are you just so excited by the film in general, and in seeing Bale reprise the role of Batman, that seeing Ledger as the Joker just doesn't bother you?










Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
5-03-2008 @ 6:45PM
Paul Arnette said...
Heath Ledger's passing, while tragic, has had no negative effect on my desire to see The Dark Knight. In fact, I would argue that the best way to honor the man is by watching his last complete performance. He was a superior actor, and a man that I think would have wanted us to see him in this role total as he and Christopher Nolan intended.
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5-03-2008 @ 6:47PM
Gerry said...
I can't wait to see this movie. Batman Begins has just grown on me more and more over time, and I think this one will have a sharper focus than the first. Ledgers death was a tragedy, but I beleive purely an accident. He jumped headfirst into the role because he was such a dedicated artist, but he wasn't an idiot, and I think he knows the line between reality and fiction. Just because he looks like he's going to be the definite Joker doesn't mean the role caused his death.
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5-04-2008 @ 2:29PM
cubitfox said...
I'm sure everyone has seen several older movies. A lot of people starring in those are dead. I don't get why people don' t want to watch Heath Ledger's performance just because he passed.
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5-03-2008 @ 7:30PM
Jonathan Reed said...
It doesn't effect my desire to see it one bit.
Nolan being a huge favourite of mine and Batman being a favourite character of mine means this is by far my film of the year to see.
But weirdly during the many (many) times I've watched the trailer I don't see Heath, I see the Joker. Such is his performance from the trailer alone.
I suspect after the film, when I've been blown away by his performance (which I am convinced I will), I'll feel a huge sorrow when I think of Heath how tragic his loss was and how that will be the last complete role we'll see him.
But until that moment, I can't wait.
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5-03-2008 @ 7:41PM
DAVID F said...
I'm actually all the MORE excited to see the film! I've liked Ledger for years and his death doesn't prevent me from enjoying this sequel. If anything, I'll be celebrating his life by (once again) admiring his talent. I'm a comic book fan and I look forward to seeing a true representation of Joker and I think he's the one to do it. I;m also looking forward to his posthumous Oscar nom!
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5-03-2008 @ 7:46PM
NitroFrost said...
Fuck yea I am going to see it I love Heath I will always I miss him.
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5-03-2008 @ 7:53PM
Naf said...
I think it's a bit foolish to suggest that an actor can't handle playing a dark role without going completely insane. Ledger was an actor, and I doubt his death had anything to do with a downward spiral caused by playing the Joker. As for the movie, I can't wait to see it. It will be a fitting tribute to watch the mans last great preformance. He acted in the time intending for his work to be seen, and that is just what I am going to do.
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5-03-2008 @ 8:34PM
Dan Owen said...
Heath Ledger would hate it if people actively stayed away from seeing him perform in his last film, just because he's dead. I can understand you feeling a *bit* uncomfortable, but it's NOT a good enough reason to not see TDK. Mind you, it makes an engaging blog to get people to feedback on... :)
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5-03-2008 @ 10:30PM
MCW said...
Good call :D
5-03-2008 @ 8:33PM
chris graber said...
Heath ledger's life and death had no impact on my own. As my death, someday, will have no impact on a lot of people.
So I can't imagine any pain or empathy being summoned. Especially since he treated his life with such contempt . . .
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5-03-2008 @ 8:21PM
MCW said...
I've been staying away from all of Cinematical's coverage of Dark Knight, because ya'll have tried to ruin it for me several times, as you've done with Indiana Jones.
So of course I want to see this movie, who wouldn't?
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2-10-2009 @ 7:45PM
billie said...
since im still mourning this great actors death-which i cant believe-im sure it will be very difficult to watch.but i have to see him in his last and most likely his best performance which in sure given his amazing talent will give him an oscar nod
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5-03-2008 @ 9:26PM
Johnny said...
Do you also have problems watching movies starring Brando?
It's not like he died on the set or something. He took poor care of himself. It's tragic, and we can learn something fro it, but why the insistance to transfer it to the movie?
And yes, I'm seeing it. And I'm going to see its sequal in 2011 or whenever, provided I myself am still alive then.
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5-04-2008 @ 10:16AM
Kim Voynar said...
Not movies starring Brando specifically, no. But I did have a moment watching the 1927 film "Underworld" recently where I thought ... wow, everyone in this film is probably dead now. It didn't stop me from watching the movie, but the thought did pass through while I was watching it.
I think it's partly just that I'm nearing a milestone birthday and have had issues about mortality and losing loved ones on my mind of late. I know other people who have said after seeing the DK trailer that they found it hard to watch Ledger, though, so I thought it would make for an interesting discussion here.
5-03-2008 @ 10:26PM
Midnight13 said...
I think it will bring out his performance even more. Not necessarily out of any morbidness, but you will think, he was a gifted actor, that he even took a comic book/cartoonish character of The Joker and turned him into a very realistic fearsome psychopath. That's part of Ledger's talent. Its not different then going to see Brandon Lee in "The Crow" when it was released after his tragic death. His death was tragic and untimely, yet because the movie was about death, and life after death, the movie becomes something that resonates deeper. I don't think or expect "The Dark Knight" to have quite the same meaning as "The Crow", but if nothing else, I'll take with me a man's talent at creating something realistic and fearsome, from what was originally cartoonish.
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5-03-2008 @ 10:45PM
YouFaceTheTick said...
I will see it for sure. Heath Ledger's death couldn't have meant much less to me. The constant harping on his fate, IS getting to me. The guy made second-rate films for a living and people are acting like he was the next Deniro. He was another River Phoenix and died in pretty much the same way. Let it be already.
FWIW, take Downey out of Iron Man and you're left with 1 good character (Stark), a lousy villain, no supporting characters, bland action and no build up to anything. The praise for Iron Man is wholly unjustified.
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5-03-2008 @ 10:50PM
The Addict said...
This movie's going to be legendary, regardless of whether people see it or not. Heath's passing is one of those markers in Hollywood history that people will remember for decades. Will I be seeing this film, you ask? You're damned right I will be. In fact, I don't think I've ever anticipated a film this much before and I can't wait to honor Heath's memory in the best way I can imagine - I'll be there, midnight IMAX showing in full Heath-Joker gear to see his transition from actor to legend.
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5-03-2008 @ 11:00PM
eugene said...
I'll definitely being seeing this in theaters. Ledger's passing has no effect on me, I didn't know the man and while I'm sad for his loss in a detached, isn't death sad, kinda way... I didn't know the guy personally and it really has no affect on my life or my viewing habits at all.
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5-03-2008 @ 11:07PM
lee said...
ill see it, but i dont go to theaters these days. Id rather see flicks on my home system.
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5-04-2008 @ 12:01AM
Jed said...
I will be all out excited if fugly talentless Maggie Gyllenhaal was not in this one.
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