The Geek Beat: The Failure of Big Screen Fantasy
Filed under: Sci-Fi & Fantasy, Fandom, The Geek Beat

Someday, there will be a cultural study that reveals why there was a renewed fascination with dragons and chicks in chainmail in the '80s. I have always suspected it was the debut of Dungeons and Dragons, but an RPG played in basements could hardly inspire Hollywood to tackle the genre so eagerly. Perhaps it was the medieval styling of Star Wars, which led movie directors to declare "Jedi knights? Hey, let's do a movie with real knights!" Maybe it was all spawned by the gigantic Excalibur, or it was a delayed reaction to the hippies' rediscovery of Tolkien.
Whatever the reason, it was a glorious time for the fantasy genre, as deliciously geeky as most things in the '80s were. (The reason we have Internet fandom is the '80s -- search in your nerd hearts, you know it to be true.) There was Conan the Barbarian, Legend, Willow, The Princess Bride, The Dark Crystal, Labyrinth, The Neverending Story, and Ladyhawke. They starred up-and-comers like Jennifer Connelly and Tom Cruise, and were directed by the likes of Richard Donner and Ridley Scott.
Barring a few dated missteps, like techno music and the glittery make-up of David Bowie, most of them have aged well. Ladyhawke is still a particular favorite of mine, as I think it has the simplicity of a real medieval tale. I secretly want it to be remade, so they could use CGI for the hawk and wolf transformations, but there is no one who can touch the ethereal loveliness of Michelle Pfeiffer, so perhaps it's best left alone.
After the enormous success of Lord of the Rings, I really hoped we would see a return to those days, a rebirth of fantasy movies. Those '80s efforts pale in comparison to the LOTR trilogy, obviously, but I genuinely hoped that a new generation of directors would cut their teeth on swords and sorcery the way Scott and Donner had. If decent movies had come out of cheesy '80s budgets, than imagine what would arise if the industry took the genre seriously. For awhile, it seemed things might be going that way, what with the Chronicles of Narnia being green-lit, and Harry Potter raking in the millions alongside the One Ring. Anything vaguely medieval was being shoved into production – Tristan and Isolde, King Arthur, Eragon, Beowulf, The Golden Compass, Stardust, etc.
The output was there, I believe the audience was there, but something was missing. A feeling of satisfaction, perhaps, or momentum. It always felt like we were waiting to be swept away. But few, if any, of the medieval/fantasy outings approached the level of The Princess Bride, let alone LOTR. In the end, it fell to The Golden Compass and Narnia to keep the genre afloat – and the results have been less than spectacular. In the case of Compass, the failure was downright spectacular critically, financially, and artistically. And based on the box office numbers for Prince Caspian and rumors from Disney, Narnia may be on its way out.
I could forgive thin emotional content if we had gotten a few fantasy flicks that were purely bad-ass. There was a maniacal bent to the films of the '80s. Remember the infamous Conan the Barbarian dialogue? Both Legend and Excalibur are downright trippy -- possibly because I have always watched them too late at night. Maybe it was drugs, maybe it was just the glee of playing with a baby genre, but the results were memorable, if nothing else. Sadly, there was never even a return even to that gloriously pulpy side of the genre. I admit it, there's a side of me that wanted to see at least one modern movie with men and women in scanty, Red Sonya style chainmail. Shameful, I know, but there it is.
Regardless of which ones you loved, liked, or hated, it looks like fantasy films are on the way back out -- at least until 2010 when The Hobbit is released. The half-hearted renaissance will come full circle, and undoubtedly there will be an attempt by several studios to cash in on "that Tolkien thing." It's fitting, really, since Tolkien invented the whole genre to begin with. While I know there are many good fantasy stories out there worth telling (particularly the medieval originals Tolkein himself loved, like Sir Gawain and the Green Knight), I will wish fervently to see anything from The Book of Lost Tales. Perhaps the digging around in appendices for a Hobbit sequel will inspire Peter Jackson & Co to tackle Beren and Luthien, or The Children of Hurin. But as to hoping for to see those or any other story I cherish ... Onen i-Estel Edain, u-chebin estel anim.
(I apologize for that last paragraph. There is just no excuse for that level of nerdery.)









Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
6-10-2008 @ 1:43PM
Rufus said...
You're right... there is no excuse for that last sentence ;)
I think Science Fiction films can be paralleled to this decline in care and detail also. I don't want to compare films (too lazy) but there is a distinct lack of originality and depth to a lot of the Sci-Fi films coming out these days.
But then, what's new.
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6-10-2008 @ 1:44PM
Sam said...
NERRRRRDDDDDDDDSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-Ogre
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6-10-2008 @ 2:00PM
Leota said...
...says the guy with a Mario icon. ;)
6-10-2008 @ 2:09PM
Tigerlily said...
Obviously the stars were in perfect alignment for all the pieces to come together perfectly for LOTR. It will be a once in a lifetime event, and I am so glad to have been a part of it. I saw the birth of Star Wars, Indianan Jones, and the first Trek movie, but nothing compares to Peter Jackson and crew bringing Tolkien to life.
Perhaps it is its perfection that make filmmakers afraid to attempt anything with real guts.
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6-10-2008 @ 2:41PM
dsr7997 said...
"Someday, there will be a cultural study that reveals why there was a renewed fascination with dragons and chicks in chainmail in the '80s."
Yeah, and the answer is Heavy Metal.
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6-10-2008 @ 2:52PM
molrak said...
I doubt the rights to any of JRR Tolkien's material outside The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings are available. They were mostly published after his death, and Christopher Tolkien has been rather vocal in his dislike of any adaptation of his father's work, which is too bad. A few adaptations from The Silmarillion could really open it up to a wider audience.
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6-10-2008 @ 2:57PM
totoro said...
I LOVED Excalibur when it first came out-just incredible myth telling.
But, Monty Python and the Holy Grail did a pretty devastating job of making every knight in shining armor movie just seem a bit...goofy :p
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6-10-2008 @ 3:07PM
juicerino said...
Awesome article. I'd love to see a return to 80's style anything, especially fantasy. The recent LOTR trilogy is the only piece of Fantasy film making i've been truly excited about in quite a long time (i saw Fellowship about 6 times in theaters). And since then, a couple things have piqued my interest but nothing has really stuck. The era of CGI seems to have caused slacking not only in the effects creation but also in the ideas department, or maybe we can blame the audiences, haha. Whatever it is, im hoping someone can lead us into a new era of awesome Fantasy and Sci-fi movie making.
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6-10-2008 @ 3:29PM
Mike S said...
Stardust is a GREAT movie. Loved it.
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6-10-2008 @ 3:44PM
Moo said...
hahaha, i love that level of nerdery (and I remembered roughly what the translation was...which is terrifying).
Nice column. I think the future of Fantasy on the big screen depends a great deal on how The Hobbit and its sequel do...artistically and financially. If they do as well financially as they should, we should continue to get fantasy flicks on the big screen (whether they'll be any good remains to be seen). If GDT and co don't bring the goods, though, and the film doesn't do well or loses momentum with the sequel, I bet the general thinking at the studio will be "well if we can't sell Tolkien, then..."
And then we'll get another 20 years of winter fantasy-wise, similar to the long gap after all of those 80's flicks we loved.
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6-11-2008 @ 11:03AM
Dartssnake said...
Two words, no translation necessary:
TOM BOMBADIL
(For the geek-wannabes):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Bombadil
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6-14-2008 @ 2:54PM
Rashad Ferguson said...
There are many ways to look at it but one thing is for sure the Fantasy films of the 80's were heroic, entertaining and down right fun. For Neo's sake people it is fantasy let's not take ourselves too seriously here...
Of lately the fantasy genre has basically become bastion of dweebs to expressing their xenophobic desires robbing us of true entertainment in the process.
The Gods must be crazy
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6-24-2008 @ 7:22PM
Kortoso said...
They just have to stop making fantasies for kids and start shooting for the grown-ups.
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6-25-2008 @ 4:03PM
Rich Santoro said...
One 80's fantasy film that yuou neglected to metion was Sword and the Sorcerer (staring Lee Horsley and Richard Mull). I loved that one. The slide sword, the dark and dreary lighting... It was a fun movie. And what about Dragon Slayer??? Best On screen Dragon ever.
The thing that is missing from this recent fantasy movie reboot is heart... Love of the genre. I remember watching D&D with Jeremy Irons and thought this has got to be good... Holy-horrible-movie-Batman. Then they tried again in 2005 and I had my fingers crossed... WTF!!?!?! I like Jason Stathom as an action guy, so I was hopeful about the In the Name of the King... nope. I guess being based on a video game, is a far cry from real Dark Age Adventure like Beowulf ("merely a blip on an otherwise uninterrupted downward trajectory" of the recent efforts). Golden Compass was actually worse than the 2003 Hulk (and that is bad). The Narnia movies are good, but throw aways... Comic books saw the same issue. When the wrong people were trying to use them as vehicles for money-making... they dive. When people (writers, directors, actors) who love the source material are at the helm... you have something great.
We need someone who loves the source material to come along and make a Grehawk Wars or Dark Elf Saga film (even a series) like LOTR or Potter). How about an amen for Beastmaster and Hawk the Slayer???
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