The Geek Beat: I Don't Wanna Grow Up
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I've been thinking a lot about maturity this week. It's commonly asserted that we nerds lack it because we focus so much on playing games, reading stories with pictures, and debating who would win in a fight, Batman or Wolverine. (Wolverine.) Of course, with half of the civilized world coming out of the closet and owning up to their love of Star Wars, Dungeons and Dragons, and the Avengers, it's difficult to make that assertion. Are you actually going to accuse some high powered lawyer or CEO of being immature if he's really into the Green Lantern?
But lately, I've been worried about the children. Sure, there's a superhero movie being optioned every other week ... but how many are really going to be for them? We're in a post-Dark Knight world now, with Watchmen and (hopefully) dark X-Men Origins: Wolverine on the horizon. We're all thrilled about the mature, edgy take superhero movies are taking. After all, grown-ups buy the tickets and the graphic novels, adults should get the movies. But what about the younger set? Are we going to leave them any superheroes to dream about?
But lately, I've been worried about the children. Sure, there's a superhero movie being optioned every other week ... but how many are really going to be for them? We're in a post-Dark Knight world now, with Watchmen and (hopefully) dark X-Men Origins: Wolverine on the horizon. We're all thrilled about the mature, edgy take superhero movies are taking. After all, grown-ups buy the tickets and the graphic novels, adults should get the movies. But what about the younger set? Are we going to leave them any superheroes to dream about?
Not that it's just superheroes. We're caught up in a massive wave of nostalgia, seeking to revive or remake everything we grew up on. Transformers! Indiana Jones! Ghostbusters! He-Man! Oh man, I loved that as a kid – I want to see it on the big screen, and live action!
Now, before you point out that many of those are kid friendly, please know that I agree wholeheartedly. I know kids saw Iron Man, and loved it. I firmly believe that kids can handle just about anything you throw at them, concentrate on the cool factor, and forget about the adult themes until they're ready. Few went home saying "Mommy, what was Tony doing with that girl on the bed?" Most were too dazzled by the glowing heart to remember the gruesome surgery that put it there, although I know one kid in my hometown theater is permanently scarred from seeing Tony pull the breathing tube out of his nose. (That kid let out more of a strangled scream than Robert Downey Jr. did!) The Dark Knight skirted the line, though. I don't think it was too dark -- Harvey Dent's mutilation and the Joker's makeup were both tamer than the melting Nazis' in Raiders of the Lost Ark, which plenty of us saw and survived. And while "What makes a hero?" is a valid discussion to have with a kid, most won't make it that far. It was talky and complex. Two ferries about to blow up is tense for adults, but boring for kids.
But when it comes to the genre, we're quickly approaching the line. I'm dying to see Wolverine hack off some limbs in his solo adventure – but am I really the audience they should be aiming for? Right now, sure, I have disposable income. Eventually, I'll have a mortgage, and I won't be able to buy issues of Wolverine, until I'm buying them for my awesome offspring. (And stealing them when they're not looking.) But if they keep writing and filming them for me, how are his young fans going to keep up? Where are his new fans going to come from? If he has no new fans, who will create his next adventures?
I suggested a few weeks ago (and admittedly, not very well) that our obsession with Marvel and DC was caused by a lack of manly men. Back when we were growing up, adults had franchises of their own – stuff like Dirty Harry, Lethal Weapon, Die Hard, Rambo. They had sex, exploding heads, machine guns, and serial killers. Kids had their own franchises, ones with a hint of the ridiculous. Superman wore tights and a cape. Luke Skywalker had a lightsaber. Indiana Jones proved that X marked the spot. Martin Riggs, John McClane, or Harry Callahan may have been loose cannons, their exploits just as over-the-top, but they wouldn't have been caught dead wearing tights and a cape. That was kid stuff. They wore sunglasses if they wanted to up the costume ante.
Now our macho men are wearing capes. And while I know Marvel and DC movies are a trend, is there something odd about our incessant need for them? Why do we want Spandex and kevlar? Is it really because we needed to replace Charles Bronson with Batman? Is it because Bronson heroes don't cut it anymore, and we need larger than life heroes who originate in outer space? Or is it just desperation on our part? We have a fierce grip on our childhood memories, and we're not willing to give them up. Instead, we're rewriting it to suit our mature sensibilities, the next generation be damned. It's not fair. They need to have their fun, too, and it shouldn't come solely from Pixar, Harry Potter (which is hardly happy escapism from here on), and DreamWorks.
I'm not going to demand that Marvel and DC Studios lighten up or dumb it down. I want gritty superhero stories as much as anyone. I don't want comic book fluff, I want the movies to prove how cool and complex these stories can be. But we do have to strike a balance, and soon. We have to allow some of these movies to be sheer spectacle and adventure, with the kind of hero a child can lose themselves in. They need to see the hero discover his powers, choose to be good, and never doubt themselves. Moral ambiguity, inner demons, heroic deconstruction, violence, and sex – there's plenty of time for them to see that, and plenty of movies to see it in. That kind of forbidden fruit is the fun (and pain) of growing up. Let's give them the fantastic, and quit co-opting it all for ourselves.
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10-21-2008 @ 1:22PM
dukrous said...
I think this is already happening to a degree. The new animated Batman series is targetted toward younger demos than any others, while there's also running cartoons like Ben10. On the comics side, you have Marvel's Ultimate universe which has some mature titles (Ultimates) and some kid-friendly stuff (Spider-man).
I think what we're seeing now is a maturing of the process in both directions. You don't have to look hard to find thought-provoking stories for adults and flashy stories for kids, but we are losing the middle ground of sharable family experiences (like iron Man, which you pointed out). in the end, though, we people our age stop buying the books and going to the movies, the companies will self-correct and skew younger to find the new audiences. It's just that our parents didn't go this long without geting kids or a mortgage, so we're exploring a new frontier of sorts...how to be adults without being Adults.
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10-21-2008 @ 1:23PM
dan said...
Batman would win. Part of Batman's essential character is figuring out how to beat opponents who seem to have every advantage. Wolverine fights with his existing talents and abilities, but Batman would figure out some way to counter them.
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10-21-2008 @ 2:27PM
sticksandgiggles said...
I'm not sure what you mean by "kids." 5-year-olds? 10-year-olds? 15-year-olds? When I was growing up, I wanted nothing more than to be treated as an adult. I read X-Men when I was 10 back in the mid-90s, and that was some heavy stuff. I ate it up. It seems the farther away adults get from childhood, the more they forget about what they felt. We treat kids as being much dumber than they really are and more innocent. Kids know what sex is at a very early age. They know what violence is because they start hitting each other as soon as they can walk. They sneak off at slumber parties and watch gory horror movies. And the majority of them are fine and grow up to be well-adjusted adults. There are plenty of youth-oriented superhero cartoons and superhero comic books for kids to read, and when they want to read the grimmer stuff, it'll be waiting. Adults need heroes too, because as much as we liked to think when we were kids that adults had all the answers and were never scared, we who have grown up know better.
10-21-2008 @ 2:53PM
Moo said...
Great column, per usual. I do worry, somewhat, about The Dark Knight Effect. Particuarly when you couple that with the fact that Speed Racer, a film marketed as a "family film" attempting to tread that middle ground dukrous notes above, died so horribly at the box office. I think it could skew things to the extremes for awhile...with films becoming either DARK or pure kids stuff. As with everything, though, it's cyclical. The fascination with darkness now will inevitably lead to a trend away from it, and then back again.
I DO wonder, though...what icons/loves will kids today have to be nostalgic about at my age? Is it Harry Potter? Twilight? I'm sure it's just because I'm out of touch (and old) but it seems like most of the icons they are exposed to are as a result of the nostalgia craze aimed at MY generation. As you noted: Transformers, GI Joe, He-Man, Tron, etc., etc. Do kids today have their own stuff that I'm not even aware of?? Probably...as I said I'm pretty out of touch, lol.
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10-21-2008 @ 10:14PM
dukrous said...
Speed Racer failed because it was a 2 1/2 hour long fan service aimed at the wrong crowd. It was DOA from conception, not because of where it landed on the spectrum
Even for kids fare, it still has to be entertaining. The definition of entertaining changes depending on your audience. Don't confuse a failure of demographics for a failure of cenception.
10-21-2008 @ 3:13PM
Sparkus said...
Its called cartoons.
Thats good enough for the little fun theives.
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10-21-2008 @ 4:04PM
Julie said...
Cartoons are not good enough. My childhood was the first of the tv generation. We had toons, and then the live action batman. Saturday mornings came into their own during my growing up years. Seseme Street came on the scene and was ground breaking children's television. I had the Disney live action films via theater and Sunday nights. Then came the Bat Man tv show, a very big deal. Then kids stuff got all in your face educational and we had the "afterschool specials" that tried to deal with real life issues. Everything, even animation took a very long hard slump.
Then, in my adulthood and the beginnings of my kids lives we suddenly had the big block buster movies. Indiana Jones, and Star Wars. Superman. For me it was getting to still be a kid. For kids at at that age it was the beginning of a phenomenon that is still taking place. Disney kept up for a while with new television shows and films. Best of all we had the rebirth of animation. This was the time of E.T., Goonies and Monster Squad too. Then as you, the new generation grew, the market just kept giving you more and it shows now signs of stopping. You are adults and are still being fed a steady diet of films to keep your childhood going. I think they are great, and I agree that kids can take more than you give them credit for. They can understand more too, they are maturing earlier.
But there is something to be said for that in between time where the Goonies, E.T.,Monster Squad and Avonlea fit in to a kids life. The magic bit of Harry Potter and Hogwarts before things get really scary. The childhood adventure film. A genre that in my opinion no longer exists. Disney is going to give it a go with the new Witch Mountain. I hope they succeed. We seem to go from Pixar to the Dark Knight with nothing in between. We want kids to love the simplicity and charm of Finding Nemo and then jump into Hannah Montana with sex, makeup and bras and Tony Stark getting blown up by terrrorists and sleeping around. Getting a bit too grown up too soon aren't we?
Does anyone out there get what I mean?
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10-21-2008 @ 5:24PM
Captain Obvious said...
Wolverine beats Batman? I don't see how. After all Batman is like a foot taller than Wolverine. I base all my judgements on who will win by height. That's why Gary Coleman loses all the time.
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10-22-2008 @ 9:41AM
Kevin said...
HAHAHAHA!!