The Geek Beat: Little Yellow Boxes
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If you're a Deadpool fan, you're probably biting your nails at what may become of him in X-Men Origins: Wolverine. You may have recently read this quote from Ryan Reynolds about the freaky pale dude seen in the trailer: "That, I would say, is Deadpool, yeah ... When I'm in the scarred makeup too, and you'll see closer shots obviously in the film, and it's hard to even tell that's me, but you can tell. You've just got to find a better shot."
Now, a lot of fans are reading between the lines and insisting that Reynolds means that character will become Deadpool, and it's all smoke, mirrors, and surprises. But a lot of fans (like ScreenRant's Rob Keyes) are already irate, because what we're seeing onscreen is not the Deadpool of the comics. Forget the red and black suit -- people are upset about his admantium claws and laser eyes. But let's stop there -- I'm not going to analyze Deadpool, his appearence in the movie, or whether Reynolds is being evasive or not when describing his Wade Wilson / Deadpool / Weapon XI / Whatever. Instead, we need to talk about character fidelity, and the frustrations we feel the moment a script begins to stray from them, and what it is we want out of a comic book movie. Because I think it is important to be faithful to "those little yellow boxes," and that dedication isn't just the rantings of irrational fans.
Now, a lot of fans are reading between the lines and insisting that Reynolds means that character will become Deadpool, and it's all smoke, mirrors, and surprises. But a lot of fans (like ScreenRant's Rob Keyes) are already irate, because what we're seeing onscreen is not the Deadpool of the comics. Forget the red and black suit -- people are upset about his admantium claws and laser eyes. But let's stop there -- I'm not going to analyze Deadpool, his appearence in the movie, or whether Reynolds is being evasive or not when describing his Wade Wilson / Deadpool / Weapon XI / Whatever. Instead, we need to talk about character fidelity, and the frustrations we feel the moment a script begins to stray from them, and what it is we want out of a comic book movie. Because I think it is important to be faithful to "those little yellow boxes," and that dedication isn't just the rantings of irrational fans.
Naturally, this topic has been touched on a lot this month with that little Watchmen movie coming out. You would have had to be deaf and blind not to see the cries of "Too faithful!" (You had to be a saint not to want to smack those saying it, especially after listening to "But it'll never be faithful to the book" from fans for the past few years.)
With Watchmen, it was damned if you do, damned if you don't -- and Variety's Brian Lowry noted that there's more leeway in changing Little Dorrit than there is in adapting comic books. There's some truth to that, but no director would willingly kill off Mr. Darcy for the sake of a plot twist ... but they'd happily kill off Cyclops.
Perhaps the first place to start might be wondering whether we do want an honest-to-panel adaptation. If you're a fan of a character, you can quote the origin story by heart. You know what was retconned -- there will be no surprises when you enter that theater, and the lights go down. There's something a little disheartening in that, and plenty found it stale when it came to Watchmen. One of my friends noted that he found it almost exhausting -- that he was so intent on waiting for that scene, and that, and was this going to be there, that he could barely enjoy the movie for its own sake on the first go. I knew how he felt. But at the same time, we were gratified because we could cross each moment off that mental checklist.
The idea that you should be "surprised" by a story and its characters is a relatively modern one. The ancient Greeks knew how The Iliad and The Odyssey ended. They knew about the rage of Achilles, and the death of Hector. The point was simply hearing it, and retaking the journey, not to be surprised because this version kills off Odysseus. No one catered to newcomers either. No one in the Anglo-Saxon era considered revising Beowulf for audiences who could care less about that Scyld Scefing guy, and might find the story "difficult" to get into because of him. You just had to hit the ground running. (Watchmen newbies had it easy in comparison.)
The idea that comic book fans are completely irrational about story changes is ... well, irrational. As fans of a genre that constantly retcons and launches into alternate and Ultimate universes, we're actually pretty cool about these things. I think all we want is a bit of respect for the properties. Just because the characters wear outlandish costumes doesn't mean they should be altered willy-nilly for the mass market. Superman falling to Earth to grow up homeless, hungry, and alone might make for a better story in a lot of ways ... but it isn't his story. Superman's story takes place in Kansas, and there are good reasons for that. We don't need a revision just because there are audience members who don't know anything about Krypton, nor do we want to be surprised by a director killing off the Kents for some new motivation.
The reason we want to see it exactly as it is on the page is the same reason we all still read The Iliad ... we enjoy taking the journey again and again. We enjoy the way this particular poet (in this case, a director and a silver screen) takes us on it. That's why Christopher Nolan and Jon Favreau succeeded so well; they gave it their own spin while keeping to the mythology outlined before them. The directors who think that it simply doesn't matter (and oh, the list is long) are the ones who incur our wrath. We'll soon find out what category Gavin Hood belongs in, and whether he takes the little yellow boxes seriously ... or if he just thinks Deadpool looks a lot cooler with claws.










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3-24-2009 @ 9:48PM
Dorv said...
Well put. Also important, however, is crafting a good story. Where the line falls between a good movie story and respecting the source material is an important one.
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3-24-2009 @ 10:09PM
Rob Keyes said...
I appreciate the link to my article :)
I agree - the reason these characters and stories were worthy enough to warrant a big budget feature film is because they were so loved for what they were in the first place.
When filmmakers drastically deviate from the commonly accepted character designs, they are basically saying that the original character was not good enough, or they think they have a better idea for that character - wrong!
The vast majority of the time, that decision is wrong as we saw with the previous movie in this franchise, X3: The Last Stand. It's because of that film that so many are keeping a careful eye on the treatment of key Marvel characters in this film.
The promotional material we've seen so far leads us to believe were in for a treat and something better than we got last time around - that and the cast and Hugh's increased personal involvement behind-the-scenes.
I'm excited to see the movie and see how the characters are portrayed.
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3-24-2009 @ 10:33PM
c said...
Exactly, I never understood why a studio pays all this money to use a character then change everything. They could just come up with their own property to use.
If it is not broke don't fix it. A comic that has been around for decades has to be doing something right.
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3-25-2009 @ 1:58AM
Chupacabra said...
Sin City and 300 were both basically, panel-to-screen, word-to-word copies of the original comics. The director's interpreted the action sequences and expanded upon them, but other than that they were incredibly faithful. They were also incredibly awesome.
Watchmen failed to be exciting in its attempts to be so faithful. This is probably because the story is a lot more complex and longer. In order to really explore all the themes at work in Watchmen a much longer movie would be needed (probably better suited to a mini-series). The page-to-screen interpretation added no value to the original work.
Anyway, Deadpool is one of my favorite comic characters, but I hope Deadpool is just uber cool in Wolverine. His hilarious comedic banter would be better in his own movie.
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3-25-2009 @ 6:57AM
Eli said...
If the movie fails i am going to blame Tom Rothman!
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3-25-2009 @ 9:47AM
Kevin said...
Well said. I think the most important thing (and perhaps the only thing) to keep in a movie based on a comic book is the basic story of the character. As you said, Superman needs to be raised in Kansas and come from Krypton. Batman needs to see his parents murdered, spiderman needs to be bit by a spider, etc. Use the best comic book stories for each of these characters as a guideline for what the story should be, but ignore the rest of the comic. What I mean by that is discard the dialogue and the panels and come up with your own visual and auditory style. Too many comic book movies have dialogue that sounds like it was taken directly from the book and, sorry to say, but comic book dialogue sounds pretty damn ridiculous when spoken aloud. The director can take some visual cues from the book, but one thing I really disliked about Watchmen was the attention to being faithful was SO heavy that there were literally scenes where I (as someone who hasn't read the GN) could tell that Snyder shot it in such a way simply to recreate the GN. Thats not inspired or even creative, its merely recreation of someone elses genius and distracts from the movie. If you try that hard to be faithful to the comic book then all you're doing is trying to please the fans of the source material who, as you said Elisabeth, are never going to be satisfied. You have to make a movie that is a good movie first and a comic book adaptation second. The way to do that is to take a great story from a comic book and make it a movie, not to take a comic book and make the drawings move.
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3-25-2009 @ 6:31PM
Hughman Bein said...
Zack Snyder rocks. Fox is a succubus. Talent moves things forward and a good story makes a good movie. More Dark Knight and less Elektra. Deadpool looks like he belongs in Elektra but I'll reserve judgement until I see the movie. If there are this many blades in a movie though I'd better get a little blood.
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3-25-2009 @ 11:35AM
terrymcbeer said...
The problem with Watchmen was just that it was too disjointed and too big to translate effectively. It almost needed two movies. And frankly, it just didn't need to be made into a movie. I love the comic, but from the moment they announced it I was worried. The movie exceeded my expectations, but I left feeling mostly blah about it.
As for Deadpool...well, I don't have much hope. One of the failures of Spiderman has been the lack of the internal dialogue Peter has with himself and the witty cracks he makes at the villains he's fighting. Sure, the Spiderman movies were fun, but this was such an important part of the character that it takes away from the movie.
X-Men the Last Stand is another one where they just blew it. They could have messed with the Jean Grey / Dark Phoenix story to make it fit, but instead they decided to ignore basic character and story elements and ended up with a far worse (by most accounts) story than they would have.
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3-25-2009 @ 12:35PM
Rolando said...
I can't really speak for Deadpool since I'm a total DC geek. But Nolan made severe alterations to The Joker and especially Two-Face's origin in TDK. But as a lifelong Batman fan, I found it be more effective while still being faithful to the spirit of Harvey Dent as we've come to know him. Sometimes the alterations are not about shocking & surprising the audience but actually a good idea to maintain the spirit of the work when crossing over mediums. Another great comic adaptation, in my estimation, that strays a lot from the source material is The Crow. Of course, sometimes it's best to leave the story the way it is. I guess in the end there's no hard & fast rule and you really need to take it on a case by case basis. I hope for you Deadpool fans out there that any changes serve to enhance the character for the medium of film and aren't just "yo, let's do it this way because it's cooler, lol"
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3-25-2009 @ 12:29PM
dukrous said...
Keep in mind I'm rooting for Wolverine to fail hard. I want Fox to drop the license and let Marvel have it back.
That being said, you have to do two things:
1) Be true to the character. If Deadpool is some smart ass assassin who wears a business suit instead of a red/black leotard, no one will mind. Maybe Deadpool is black now...or has robot legs. Who cares...as long as the core of the character is intact, most fans will go with the changes to see why it was done (even if it was just done to be different).
2) Tell an actual story. Action set pieces are nice and all, but without some plot as connective tissue, you just have a pretty light show. X-Men and X2 has real heart at its core, and respected who the characters were even as it reshuffled them around. Last Stand just decided to go for the pretty light show and look at how it's held up.
The example I like to point to is The Dark Knight's Joker. Joker has no backstory, creates a plot he never did in any comic, helps make Two-Face (another comic departure), but the core of his character is so true to the comic that people are calling it the definitive portrayal of Joker. Without the respect of the character or a narrative to keep you interested in him, the movie would have fallen flat.
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3-25-2009 @ 12:37PM
Rolando said...
As for Watchmen, calling it too faithful is ludicrous, for sure. But only because I don't think it was faithful, despite the cosmetic similarities. It's like a clone: looks and sounds the same but doesn't have the soul.
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3-26-2009 @ 5:50AM
Mudassir said...
The thing that has deadpool fans all riled is that there isn't going to be enough deadpool in it or he's not going to be awesome enough.
@Rolando
Deadpool =/= Joker. I know you're right when you say that something so aesthetically fluid in its source can be interpreted in any way, but Deadpool equally great but extremely awesome character. He is known for the humor he provides in stories. Do yourself a favor and buy a Cable & Deadpool trade right now. The only other time I laughed this hard was while reading Hitchiker's Guide.
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3-26-2009 @ 1:31AM
Christian said...
all I have to say about watchmen is Moore always said it could never be made into a movie, and yet they tried.
they made the movie, but it no where near touched what the GN did. if anything came from it however I hope it turned more on to comic's.
However that is a double edged sword because the higher in popularity comic's rise the more likely it is that we will see bastardized renditions of our beloved characters.
as it's been said before, if it's not broken, don't fix it. and sometimes, that fix includes taking it to the big screen, or any screen for that matter.
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3-26-2009 @ 10:50AM
ML said...
I can't say I'm really a comic book fan (my parents wouldn't allow me to buy such things) - more of a manga fan now that I'm an adult - but my impression is that comic books (unlike manga, that tend to follow a single defined arc) tend to be open-ended and continuously re-invent themselves. Therefore, one can't expect continuity throughout the entire scope of a comicbook series. My sense would be that the comic fan might be open to a certain flexibility of story with limitations in certain areas (for example where they're essential to character, such as Superman's Kryptonian origin and Batman's traumatic childhood experiences), but expect the characters and tone to be consistent with the source.
As a reader, I'm generally more interested in seeing the director bring the story to life. For example, I did not want Jackson to take huge liberties with The Lord of the Rings (and he didn't - thank you Mr Jackson!). Why adapt a story if you are going to change things around so much that the audience is "surprised"? Wasn't the story good enough? Why remove the very reasons the book sold or was a classic in the first place? In fact (thinking of a recent example), the change they made to the Ruins didn't surprise me, but it did make me mad because a) I hated that character and b) it missed the point of the novel. The last Count of Monte Cristo was disappointing and The Scarlet Letter was abysmal. No wonder they almost never adapt classic literature any more.
But, then, if they really want to surprise, why are they constantly remaking things instead of buying original work? I don't understand Hollywood at all.
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