The Most Outdated Films and Conventions
Filed under: Critical Thought, Fandom, Summer Movies

Our ongoing Favorite Summers retrospective has thrown the past into a painful (but hilarious) clarity. Saying"The films of the '80s and '90s are dated!" is like pointing out the sky is blue, but I do think that the past 30 years were more awkwardly captured than the '60s and '70s were before them. Despite the clothes and typewriters, All the President's Men seems far less dated than The X-Files: Fight the Future, and I can't put my finger on why this is except for a vague notion of cultural relevance, and the fact that '70s sideburns and tight pants will always look cool.
Perhaps nothing defines this better than the '80s Cold War films. That decade took our Soviet paranoia to a level of shrillness. In my Russian history classes, we used to joke about how much we feared the Soviets and how much of our dread was fueled by the movies, films that are now nothing but pure cheese after Gorbachev. But they're pretty incredible relics because of the sheer terror they're filled with. To paraphrase my esteemed colleague Scott Weinberg, if all that remained of our civilization was Rocky IV, what the hell would archaeologists think? The only conclusion you could come to was that the Soviet Empire was something akin to the Huns, a terrifying force that had attacked the North American continent for decades. I mean, freedom's up against the ropes ... does the crowd understand? Those futuristic scholars won't, unless they find the right history book, and not a copy of Red Dawn.
So, here's your midweek Cinematical essay question -- what are some films that are terribly outdated to the point that they warp a historical outlook? What films are so dated that they're nearly unwatchable? What about archiac movie conventions? Costumes, clothing and technology are acceptable answers, but I'd love some really creative examples.
So, here's your midweek Cinematical essay question -- what are some films that are terribly outdated to the point that they warp a historical outlook? What films are so dated that they're nearly unwatchable? What about archiac movie conventions? Costumes, clothing and technology are acceptable answers, but I'd love some really creative examples.
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5-07-2009 @ 12:56PM
YenRug said...
Whilst I still love the film for it's style and for making geeks/nerds look cool, the technology in Hackers is seriously dated. What they had on the screens looks cool and abstract, for representing what they're doing, as soon as they start talking about what they've got in their laptops as being cutting edge you just know how old it is; you could probably date the film to a specific month, or two, until the latest advancements came along and made the tech outdated.
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5-07-2009 @ 4:17PM
Monika said...
But doesn't that give it a wonderfully tacky feel? As the hackers purr over Kate/Jolie's 28.8 BPS modem?
5-07-2009 @ 1:32PM
ZM said...
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5-08-2009 @ 1:57AM
LordPaul said...
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5-07-2009 @ 2:15PM
Astin said...
I find a lot of Sci-Fi from the past is incredibly dated. The visions of the future from the 60's through the 80's are often more a reflection of styles and opinions of the time than a legitimate prediction.
Also, what ZM said, but with a bit less vitriol. At least we can comment again without an AIM account.
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5-07-2009 @ 2:29PM
1931 all over again said...
ZM, what the heck are you doing movie crap on your puter for at work? They paying you for that, howdy-boy.?Maybe you just mind your own p's and q's and not worry about somenody else elses until your own stinking steamies is lined up right! What is this? Film Club? LOL, get off the cross you air bags, we need the wood.
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5-08-2009 @ 2:01AM
GL said...
He's simultaneously improving his workplace morale and his productivity. Get with it.
5-07-2009 @ 5:55PM
Cale said...
I just watched Soylent Green recently. It's sooooooo dated. They made no effort to de-70s it at all.
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5-08-2009 @ 11:26AM
Taegel said...
80's action movies have an inimitable panache and cheesiness. COMMANDO and TANGO & CASH remain two of my favorite flicks not in spite of, but because of the hammy acting, ludicrous one-liners and steroid machismo -- not to mention the hair.
SEE ALSO: Above the Law, Running Man, Basic Instinct, Rambo III, Raw Deal
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5-08-2009 @ 11:43AM
ML said...
As each era passes, its movies become dated. The point is that some movies become more dated than others because some movies deal with more universal subject matter than others. It's difficult for me to determine exactly what you're driving at. However, here goes:
A good many 70s movies are difficult for me to watch. The main reason I think is that, outside of the movies with the highest production values, most opted to drop a full orchestral score for a bargain-basement (or, at least, it sounds that way) jazz combo or some such. Then you have the clothing and hairstyles of the time, which were bad enough when we had to endure them the first time round (on people sitting across from us!). When I see indications of the styles (and even disco) coming back, I just cringe. Sorry, it was my youth, but it wasn't my thing. Sure, I like the Godfather & the quality movies of the time, but it takes a really good movie to get me to tune in.
80s & 90s movies don't tend to bother me as much, but I don't tend to re-watch the ones with a lot of paranoid musings (unless you count Blade Runner as having cold war analogies? I tend to read it more universally). I certainly don't tend to revisit Rocky or Rambo. We still have The Verdict, The Shawshank Redemption, etc.
Older movies, say film noir, before I was born, sure that's stylized & unrealistic, very dated, but I enjoy the style, so count me in. There are plenty of directors who admire the style and try to update it with varying degrees of success, and I'm usually willing to give them a try.
Special effects date fast. Even the best stop-motion animation now looks quaint and old-fashioned and it would never be chosen for realistic effects today. CGI moves forward so fast that effects from a couple of years ago can suffer in comparison with the latest. What will happen with today's 3D movies? Whether it advances or is a flash in the pan, no doubt today's "early" 3D will date quickly.
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5-08-2009 @ 9:11PM
Chet said...
The Last Boy Scout.
Sure, there was an echo years later in Gone in Sixty Seconds, but that at least picked up some of the ensemble-cast forgivability vibe of Armageddon, had a car fetish on which to focus, and benefitted from the sanitation of PG13 targeting.
The Last Boy Scout was all the glossy glib glassy-eyed meanness of the high-concept blockbuster taken to its logical conclusion -- in-your-face-offensive, unapolagetic, and boldly insipid, the nasty hangover after a party that went on a little too long, exactly a product of its time.
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