The 'Terminator' Anxiety Support Group

I just want the show renewed. :(

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I would tell you that your wrong but I have the same bad feeling. Three things bother me most about the upcoming Terminator film:

1. There are still two more Terminator films after Salvation
-- So we already know there isn't going to be much closure and a lot of the film will be set up for the other two.

2. Christian Bale forced rewrites.
- This is never a good sign for any movie. But this also points to the notion that maybe McG hasn't had the right amount of control on this movie as he should. The director is supposed to be the captain of the ship but as evidenced by Bale's rant months earlier where McG didn't even attempt to step in, he's not.

3. McG has been comparing himself to Michael Bay
-- Enough said

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I agree with what Adam said Bale has had to much say in the Movie. I would even say so on the Batman movies too. I know it is small but all He keeps saying is how He Hates Robin and never wants him in the movie. But if you know the Real Story about Batman you know Robin is a big part.

Back on topic I am excited to see this new film but also really worried. I know it is small but the last ones were R so I wonder if this means less action and gore. Because if any thing the lore of the Future in the Terminator world is to be really dark. So I wonder how dark the movie will be.

But no matter what I am going to see the film.

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sci fi movies are almost always disappointing

makes me wonder why hollywood cant pick someone
who knows how to write

i guess they know all they have to do is throw in some big action scenes

and fools like me will show up

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Aliens was the best Action movie ever made.....and I love T1 and T2......

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I'm glad to hear your support for T3. It seemed to me that they were aware that backlash on T3 was probable, so they didn't promote it as the end-all to the Terminator series. The marketing behind it had a cheekier feel to it than this upcoming sequel... Which is taking itself waaaay seriously.

And it should be serious, because you can't do two "sort-of" sequels in a row without totally losing support for a franchise. Or losing respect, then having to wait a billion years to make "Batman Begins."

Anyhow - I really don't know. They're getting good at making trailers nowadays, so that even crappy crap looks nifty. While there's a lot of rock music and mugging in the trailers, they do seem to lack what I would have expected from McG... but, again, they're getting good at making trailers nowadays.

I wish I could lend you some confidence for the screening, but I'm trying to keep my expectations low. Regardless of Bale's tweaking of the film, I'm happy for his presence, but ever since discovering McG's attachment to the film, I've been unable to shake the feeling that it's going to be off. Even if he manages to adapt his formula to the franchise, I just really don't see how the themes sync up with his oeuvre... However, I'll balance that by saying that I've respected his take (from what I've read, anyway) on the characters and series, and so perhaps his reverence will truly translate to the screen.

Whatever. I'm going to see it.

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There's a pretty cool article in the latest Entertainment Weekly that actually got me kind of pumped for the movie. But yeah, I have some pretty massive doubts.

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After Terminator 3 i stopped caring. The entire gay bar sequence was so cheesy and the fact that they had to one-up the liquid terminator with the ahem... "terminatrix," was just deplorable. I will only ever consider the original and Judgement Day as Terminator movies. Anything after that... no so much.

That being said, I will see Salvation and actually do have some hope for it. I won't consider it as part of MY terminator experience, as that is only reserved for the James Cameron versions, but i do respect McG for "not compromising" in making the movie R or PG-13. He just made the movie, not caring about reaching for a particular rating. He may very well screw this whole thing up, but i'd say there is a 65% chance that it won't suck.

Keep your chin up, you know.

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wow, I've never heard such a poor argument made over a movie you haven't seen yet. It really was the stupidest thing I've read in a long time.

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Call it Jake's Rule (copyrighted and trademarked):

There is an inverse relationship between the amount of run-up televised publicity for a major motion picture and the quality of said motion picture.

Or: the earlier, more frequent, and more varied the television commercials (e.g., commercials start 3 months out, 7 or 8 different versions of the commercials before launch, heavy advertising to the "target demographic") are for a movie, the more the movie will suck.

Why? Because the studio knows that it will suck, but the people don't. Most people don't read reviews or movie blogs, but hear about movies from friends and acquaintances. The studios know that once people see a bad movie and bad word-of-mouth begins, they are dead in the water. Heavy pre-opening advertising might give them a bigger turn-out for opening weekend, so that a bad film might still have one good weekend.

Geniunely good films don't need major hype before launch, and the studios don't want to sink money in advertising they don't need.

Jake's Rule leads me to suspect that Salvation will suck. They've been hyping this thing since Christmas. There were exclusive sneak peaks during the Terminator TV series in FEBRUARY. I don't want it too -- I want this movie to be good -- but I firmly believe that Jake's Rule will hold.

*sigh*

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