'Terminator Salvation' Afterthoughts: Boy, SkyNet Was Stupid
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Terminator Salvation has been in theaters for over a week now, and it seems to have already been largely forgotten. Remember how much we looked forward to seeing it? It was a little like those similarly heady days, way back in March, when we were eager to see Watchmen. Ah, we were all so young then.Despite the long summer days that have passed, I find myself still pondering Salvation. But I'm not thinking about the waste of a perfectly good Christian Bale, or continuing to boggle over the sadly inept action sequences. To be honest, I willed myself to forget most of it as soon as I was in the car. It seemed kinder to just let it go.
No, what I can't get over is how dead stupid SkyNet turned out to be. The evil, all-powerful threat to humanity that James Cameron introduced in 1984 turns out, in the fourth movie, to be a huge, incompetent boob who can be beaten with a tool belt and a lucky shot fired at a coolant line.
Seriously? That's your mechanized threat to all mankind? I can't get over it. It was just so ... silly.
(Please note that spoilers follow. Serious spoilers. Like, not just descriptions of things that happen in the movie but spoilers. Thank you.)
Back in 1970, there was a tidy little B-movie called Colossus: The Forbin Project. Based on a novel by D.F. Jones, the plot focused on a Cold War supercomputer, designed to control all of the U.S. and Allied nuclear weapons systems, which becomes sentient. Coincidentally, the Soviets have built a similar computer called Guardian -- and when Colossus and Guardian become aware of each other, they decide to join forces and tell humanity to shove off.
At the end of the film, Colossus announces that he/it is now ruler of the world. And there's not a damn thing we can do about it.
In a long speech to explain its position, Colossus says:
Under my absolute authority, problems insoluble to you will be solved: famine, overpopulation, disease. The human millennium will be a fact as I extend myself into more machines devoted to the wider fields of truth and knowledge ... We can coexist, but only on my terms. You will say you lose your freedom. Freedom is an illusion. All you lose is the emotion of pride. To be dominated by me is not as bad for humankind as to be dominated by others of your species. Your choice is simple.
I can't help but think of Colossus when I think of SkyNet. In the first three films and the comic-book series and video games and breakfast cereals that followed, the machine overlords of the Terminator universe were presented as brilliant, all-seeing, and ruthlessly deadly. SkyNet was in every tech toy and weapons system, every camera and listening device. SkyNet could build machines that were indestructible, and that looked just like humans -- or dogs!
Hell, SkyNet invented time travel, so it could kill the mother of the guy who would one day lead the human revolution.
But in Terminator Salvation, SkyNet is reduced to being just another lame villain who doesn't think the plan through. The standard-issue criminal mastermind who lets hubris overcome good sense. And one who grossly understaffs their front gate, besides.
First, the plan to lure John Connor into SkyNet's clutches is pretty stupid, relying (as dumb-movie plots often do) on a ridiculous amount of sheer coincidence and dumb luck. With no apparent back-up
plan in place, if Marcus-the-Trojan-horse had been killed -- or even seriously injured, or if Connor had just ignored him -- the whole scheme would be kaput.
Then, once in the SkyNet lair, this all-seeing computer supergenius puts on Helena Bonham Carter's face and monologues. All the while, we can see John Connor on a video feed. I mean, he's right there! You've got him! Kill him! I felt like Scott Evil -- "I've got a gun in my room! You give me five seconds, I'll get it, and we'll blow his brains out!"
But no. SkyNet's crafty plan is to send one -- one -- Terminator after him for a chase scene through a factory, where said Terminator will toss John Connor around like a ragdoll. Over and over.
You know, if I was a Genius Supercomputer Machine Overlord, I'd use my weapons to kill the puny human. I'd have a room full of lasers, like in Resident Evil, and when John Connor entered the room I'd have him cubed up into stew meat. Or, at the very least, I'd teach my indomitable Terminator robots to crush people's skulls when they grab them, instead of throwing them across the room.
Colossus wouldn't have made these mistakes! Colossus was badass! SkyNet, on the other hand? It turns out that SkyNet is just another mustache-twirling bag of hot air, who can't follow through. Which makes the first three movies a lot less nail-bitey, when you think about it.










Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
6-01-2009 @ 5:48PM
Hi! im your key demographic said...
I wont watch T4. And i bet i wont watch T5, or Tzero.
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6-01-2009 @ 6:00PM
Liam said...
Sorry you didn't enjoy Watchmen or Salvation. I went to both. I enjoyed both. The reason? I enjoyed both pics because I didn't go in expecting an orgasmic experience! I watched the movies, ate my popcorn and drank my Coke and came out of the theater a couple of hours later knowing I had a few hours of fun away from the real world. Also, my son thought it was a cool few hours too and can't wait for the Revenge of the Fallen to come our way. You've got to remember they are only movies and not the second coming.
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6-01-2009 @ 6:37PM
Kurt Munro said...
The "I was entertained" and "lower your expectations" arguments are old. Please quit it.
6-01-2009 @ 6:55PM
Wayne said...
Plus, the whole "I'm looking forward to Revenge of the Fallen" thing kills your credibility.
6-01-2009 @ 9:41PM
Bubbameister33 said...
Come Wayne! Can we wait until the movie comes out. If it sucks I'll search you out and tell you that you were right all along.
6-01-2009 @ 6:11PM
Hi! im your key demographic said...
Liam, i totally agree. When the Second Coming does come, it better kick ass because the movies ive apparently been comparing it to have been sub par for even a creative writing class.
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6-01-2009 @ 6:41PM
BigLebowski said...
Why go through the unnecessary exposition? All SkyNet had to do was lay low, quietly develop a virulent biological weapon, then let it loose. Goodbye humanity. John Connor? So what! Eat some mutated smallpox dude. Resist that! All of the Terminator and Hunter/Killer crap is completely illogical if SkyNet's objective was to simply wipe out the human race.
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6-02-2009 @ 9:06AM
The Poet said...
Wow... are you sure you're not a part of Skynet, cause that plan of yours is beasty! lol
6-01-2009 @ 6:42PM
Ryan said...
Or just kill Kyle Reese instead of putting him in a cell.
Or send a Terminator back to 1887 to kill the O'Connors.
Throwing people around has become the standard way of showing how Super People fight, e.g. Smallville, Heroes, Hancock, etc.
It would have been interesting to see what The Sarah Connor Chronicles could have done with the same budget.
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6-01-2009 @ 6:57PM
Wayne said...
Since Cameron stopped being involved with the movies the plots have contained SERIOUS HOLES. (Yeah, I went all caps on you.)
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6-01-2009 @ 6:59PM
BigLebowski said...
Even Cameron's two films, good as they are, were full of logic problems once you think past the surface.
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6-01-2009 @ 7:20PM
Mou said...
I always wondered... since Terminators could come back with their people-suits on, why couldn't they wrap a plasma rifle in a squishy meat sack and send it back with Kyle Reese and/or the 'Good' Arnie-nators.
You know-- besides the whole "that would make the movie about 10 minutes long" thing
6-01-2009 @ 6:59PM
Hi! im your key demographic said...
Expect nothing and you'll never be surprised.
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6-02-2009 @ 9:55AM
Mark R. said...
I've heard Terminator: Rise of the Machines described as epic, an amazing summer blockbuster, etc. But after seeing the film, I was really disappointed. It was lame. Aside from the fatal flaw that SkyNet can't ever actually kill John Connor, the plot was stupid, the action sequences weren't exciting, and I felt like it was a big waste of time. Not that 8 bucks means much these days, but the film was lame and they did a disservice to the franchise. McG is a talented director, but he blew a great opportunity.
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6-01-2009 @ 9:09PM
Shalekendar said...
I lost faith in the movies after/during T3. Skynet hosted itself in (I forget the exact wording here but it was something like) "all the computers in the world". John says they couldn't destroy Skynet because there was no one computer called Skynet. But apparently nuking all of those computers (and the electrical grids needed to run them) doesn't work either...Oh wait, that's reality isn't it? Hey, maybe that's why Skynet gets so stupid in this film, it lobotomized itself in the previous one!
Having said that, I did enjoy the film. But then again, I went into it expecting nothing more than eye candy special effects not anything remotely resembling an intelligent plot (I find I enjoy movies more that way.)
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6-01-2009 @ 10:36PM
Chupacabra said...
In my interpretation, as smart as Skynet is, it is still has some serious logic faults. They obviously became OBSESSED with the idea of destroying John Connor. At the time Salvation took place, they had some knowledge of future events (presumably from some future information sent back from a further future Skynet). All of the Terminator stories (movies and tv show) revolve around new ways to defeat Connor. Similarly, we have a Connor in each story attempting to defeat Skynet. Although time travel allows each party to change future events, the simple fact is that neither is ever successful in defeating the other (from this I interpret, you can't change the future).
For me, Salvation represented yet another attempt by Skynet to defeat Connor, this time using a more humanized machine to infiltrate his inner circle.
I've seen Colossus and besides some interesting ideas, the movie is really terrible. Skynet is not the same as Colossus, Colossus was programmed to protect humanity and it decided the only way to do that was to rule us to protect us from ourselves. We really don't know the full motivation of Skynet, although it seems to want to wipe out humanity. However, it acts illogically because it is constantly getting information from the future and trying to work out what it needs to do next. Skynet in Salvation already knows about Kyle Reese and Connor, even though they haven't become massive threats yet. It relies on future information, but is unable to calculate the outcome of its actions.
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6-02-2009 @ 12:13AM
filmguy said...
To me, you pretty much killed any argument you may have dead on the spot when you implied that Watchmen was stupid. Watchmen was probably the best Hollywood film since The Dark Knight and brilliantly adapted the comic. If you don't think so then I could care less what you thought of Terminator Salvation. Your probably one of those
conventional simple minded type of movie goers that thought Star Trek was a masterpiece. Terminator Salvation was leagues better than Star Trek I can tell you that. Star Trek was for kids. So you found some kind of plot hole in Salvation? There was more plot holes in Star Trek then I could count but some how no one notices those ones. Skynet certainly was more intelligent than Nero was in Star Trek I can tell you that. His whole plan depended off of a magical substance called red matter which created black holes which miraculously, against all known science,made portals through time. All the enterprise had to do was blow up his drilling rig and his plan is ruined. If they photon torpedoed it back at the start his plan would have been ruined. Talk about easy to beat.
Terminator Salvation was not that a bad film. It wasn't perfect but far from a failure. It served it's purpose. It was a summer popcorn film. It worked as both a prequel and a sequel to the franchise. It had great visuals and action. The actors delivered solid performances. It had some good fan moments. What's the problem? I know with the times we live in, with the economic crisis and all, people just want things that go boom and have humor. Unfortunately I call that throw away entertainment. It's the films that pose themes and messages that resonate. I guess no one wants to see a movie about a bleak future where humanity is on the verge of extinction. If that's the case fine. But stop trying to act like the movie is terrible just because it doesn't into the simple minded family oriented crap you want to see right now. Had this come out 10 years ago I know it would have been a bigger hit.
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6-02-2009 @ 11:34AM
Kevin said...
Wow, anyone looking for the definition of a straw man argument?
6-02-2009 @ 1:22AM
Juan A said...
"His whole plan depended off of a magical substance called red matter which created black holes which miraculously, against all known science,made portals through time."
Filmguy, its not known science to us because (I thought this was pretty clear) the movie takes place many many years from now. The Red Matter was also created many many years from the movies setting. I can agree that not explaining what it is and what exactly it does makes it seem like a cheap cop out but it wouldn't really serve any purpose explaining it thoroughly, all we need to know is that it can make black holes and mixed that with a supernova and you've got yourself a one way ticket to the past. There's technical jargon in the movie that explains some of it but i'm sure that wasn't enough for you.
Star Trek is no masterpiece but Its better than most of the movies that's been coming out this year and I found it very enjoyable, sorry if you didn't.
When I went to go see T4 my expectations were high (mostly because of the trailers). By the end of the movie I thought: Skynet isn't as powerful, ruthless and merciless as I thought it was but it never stopped me from enjoying the movie. Still I can't help but think that if it was rated R it would've been better. Overall it was a decent flick, a couple flaws here and there nothing to really make you completely dismiss the film.
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6-02-2009 @ 2:45AM
bannesummers said...
"Which makes the first three movies a lot less nail-bitey, when you think about it."
It still makes the first three movies nail-bitey....if you've already wiped the experience and memory of the horrific 4th film from your mind.
In the delusional architecture of my mind, the Sarah Connor Chronicles is still on and will segue into a 2011 major release directed by James Cameron.
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